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So it seems to me that this is quite a poor decision to make, what do you think? You can't erase history and historical places. I think that clearly although rather one terrible Chap and not the kind you'd invite round for tea, these kinds of places should be kept as reminders of what can happen when things go very wrong in the human race.

 

The Berchegarden, Bunker in Berlin are all places I think should have been or be kept as a reminder. I do understand why they were destroyed as the world just wanted to eradicate everything and stop Neo nazis but now we are 70 years on these places do hold hugely significant historical importance in the world. Seems a huge loss to society as a whole this

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3844584/Hitler-s-house-Austria-DEMOLISHED-stop-neo-Nazis-flocking-place-born.html

 

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-10-18/hitlers-house-spared-demolition-but-will-be-disguised/

 

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/EaglesNest/Berghof.html

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When a site, building or memorial is used to commemorate and reignite the beliefs of a mass murderer of 50 million people, one of the most pernicious and evil human beings ever born, then it is time to remove it like him and his kind off the face of the earth.

 

Diana

 

 

 

So it seems to me that this is quite a poor decision to make, what do you think? You can't erase history and historical places. I think that clearly although rather one terrible Chap and not the kind you'd invite round for tea, these kinds of places should be kept as reminders of what can happen when things go very wrong in the human race.

 

The Berchegarden, Bunker in Berlin are all places I think should have been or be kept as a reminder. I do understand why they were destroyed as the world just wanted to eradicate everything and stop Neo nazis but now we are 70 years on these places do hold hugely significant historical importance in the world. Seems a huge loss to society as a whole this

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3844584/Hitler-s-house-Austria-DEMOLISHED-stop-neo-Nazis-flocking-place-born.html

 

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-10-18/hitlers-house-spared-demolition-but-will-be-disguised/

 

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/EaglesNest/Berghof.html

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Right now that horrific part of history is still in living memory for some ! Although I am against removing the building , in ancient Egypt there are defaced and destroyed artifacts that were associated with unpopular rulers . now we are poorer historically for it.

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Hitler and his Nazi regime killed killed nearer 25 Million according to the best historical estimates, just for the record. As for his home I don't care that they are to destroy his birthplace! Actually I thought they had actually destroyed it long ago!

 

Perversly the birthplaces of the other infamous butchers of humanity whose crimes are still just within living memory, Lenin, Stalin and Mao, still exist and are open for business!

 

Lenin's childhood home is in Simbirsk, the Joseph Stalin Museum is in Gori and Mao Zedong's is located in Shaoshan Village Shaoshan City. The best estimates for deaths in the USSR are circa 60 Million and 32 million for Mau.

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I think the problem in Germany with his kind of thing is two fold - first, as has been said, all these events occurred within living memory and Germany still seeks to distance itself from those days so anything that serves as a reminder is basically a candidate for erasure. The exceptions being sites that either had prior historical significance or whichcommemorate the terrible losses. Secondly is the rise of the Neo-Nazis and their tendency to use anything remotely associated with Nazi Germany as shrines - hence the destruction of the Berlin Bunker, Berchtesgarten and - now - his birthplace.

 

Looked at long term - and slightly tongue in cheek - what would future generations make, having learnt of the horrors of Nazi Germany make if they found a house with a blue plaque say "Adolf Hitler lived here"??

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Actually , the initial research for this thread is in error - demolishment is not quite on the horizon :-

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3848406/Hitler-s-birthplace-NOT-demolished-Fresh-row-erupts-plans-knock-home-Austria-prevent-neo-Nazi-shrine.html

 

Why ruin a period mitteleurope period street scene - when if you slavishly follow the gutter-press , go and wreck a bit of hideous English-Wales architecture ,,

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/now-you-can-live-famous-8790923

 

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I could give a short book reading list , I doubt if it would aid ,,

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Actually when you think about it, it is strange that human kind wants to 'take it out' on a building where someone evil was born, but not the pavement outside, or the road a person may have walked along or their school, or the mountains they may have admired.

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When a building is used as some sort of shrine( as per the "gutter press") to commemorate and re-ignite the actions, behaviour and views of a mass murder yes it is time to obliterate that object.

 

Diana

 

 

 

 

Actually when you think about it, it is strange that human kind wants to 'take it out' on a building where someone evil was born, but not the pavement outside, or the road a person may have walked along or their school, or the mountains they may have admired.

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Spandau Prison was demolished in 1987 following the death of Hess. The bricks are supposed to have been ground up and dumped at sea, speciffically so it didn't become a Neo Nazi shrine. Yes, the Second World war is within living memory, and not only in Germany. Structures do have a symbolic power, take every war memorial for a start. So a lot of long and careful thought will go into what to do with this buildings. No doubt with the dreaded 'P' word making it presence felt.

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Hitler always intended to demolish a great part of Berlin and redevelop on a truly massive scale (other than the odd massive Flak Tower I suppose the RAF did the spade work for him) , given time and opportunity - Braunau am Inn - the older buildings may not have always been sacrosanct ,,

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