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Hi Dan.   Hope your still on here and following the people that you've inspired.  Love to see any progress you've made.

Finally followed your lead and cut the rear bumper out. Always stressed over how to reinstate the integrity of the chassis.  My solution is shown in the pictures.   Repro Willys rear cross member welded in to stop excessive flex.  In process of fitting Ford GPW pintle hook V brace to complete the transformation.  Will post pics when I finish. 

 

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Hi guys, just wondering if anyone has a solution to an issue I have, namely where to source a cable that fits an aftermarket willys speed on one end and a Ford escort gearbox the other end? I've found some companies but they need to know what to put on each end and the length, and I've no idea!

 

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Mazzamagoo.

 

The gearbox end is the ford circlip type, if your using a Willys Jeep Speedo, it s the 5/8 x 18

Basically  work out the length bu using either the old ford cable or an old curtain wire.  Then give these guys a ring.

https://speedycables.com/speedometer-cables/

 

Do forget to get the speedo re-calibrated at the same time. Even with 14" wheel the speedo is way out.

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Finally after weeks of shite weather, decorating and helping sons with there wants I said NO, i'm going to the garage.

After some cutting an shutting, running out of gas mig welding, having to grind out hydrogen embrittled weld , birds nesting the welding wire. It felt like I'd fallen out with the Engineering Gods. But today, Willys A frame is in and painted. So please with it. 

Bolt left out to prove the alignment was spot on. Oh and made the pintle hook bracket and back plate from 5 mm plate, So my more satisfying than buying then.

Next post will show the body going on.   :)

 

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Can't believe it's taken so long to update my progress. Poor weather and work stopped play.   However, lockdown has its advantages.

Managed to paint and fit front wings, grab handles, grill, steering. Painted willys windscreen. Started modifying bonnet to accept willys hinge.

Its finally starting to like a vehicle.

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Looks great! It takes so long to get there but when you see bits come together it makes it so worth it! 

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Did you finish yours Dan? It was your posts that inspired me to chop up the Sandero Jago and start this long process.  

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No 7 years and I’m still going 😂 my jeep lives at work, so I don’t get much time to do it with working on cars all week, I never really fancy going to work on it at the weekend. I’ve had some more time recently because of the current situation so as I’m still working when I get time during the day I’ll go jump on it.

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27 minutes ago, wheado said:

Can't believe it's taken so long to update my progress. Poor weather and work stopped play.   However, lockdown has its advantages.

Managed to paint and fit front wings, grab handles, grill, steering. Painted willys windscreen. Started modifying bonnet to accept willys hinge.

Its finally starting to like a vehicle.

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Wow! Amazing step forward. Really changed. Fantastic 

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9 minutes ago, Dan123 said:

No 7 years and I’m still going 😂 my jeep lives at work, so I don’t get much time to do it with working on cars all week, I never really fancy going to work on it at the weekend. I’ve had some more time recently because of the current situation so as I’m still working when I get time during the day I’ll go jump on it.

Great Dan, it looks superb. Work when you can then, always progress

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Glassed in to bonnet a willys hinge this evening. Secured  with 5 off  M6 counter sink screws initally to get position correct. Then welded on a extension plate with 50mm holes  this allows the weight of the bonnet on the hinge to be spread over a large area and ensure a really strong bond.  Glassed  hinge to modified sandero bonnet  ( hump temoved).

Next job trim off excess, rub down rough edges. flip bonnet, grind away glass around screw heads and glass in. They should be invisible when finished and the hinge fixed solid as a rock.

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Bonnet rubbed down and painted. Bonnet welting fitted using bifricated rivets. (So much better than screws.)

 

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This is fantastic @wheado, thanks so much for documenting this... Your rear bumper/A-frame mods have inspired me! Where did you get the chassis metalwork from (a frame and rear crossmember)?

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On 5/2/2020 at 12:14 AM, coombed said:

This is fantastic @wheado, thanks so much for documenting this... Your rear bumper/A-frame mods have inspired me! Where did you get the chassis metalwork from (a frame and rear crossmember)?

Hi Coombed. The parts came for Jeep Parts UK.   The rear cross member can be welded  to the Jago chassis with out modification. To locate I measured the mounting holes in the body to the back and then checked against those in the chassis only to find that I could have just pushed it up behind the rear roll bar stay outriggers . (Oh well better to check).  Weld in place, prime and paint. Simple.

  The A frame is a GPW one ( Jagos after all are most ford based), but it need modifying.  the Jeep A frame is both too wide and too long to fit the Jago chassis. I cut v notches in the areas shown in the picture and reformed the bends to suit the narrower Jago chassis. The cut of the excess length.  Once I was happy I made the pintle hook plate out of some 5mm plate and used it to hold the A frame in position before tack welding the revised bends. Then its a simple case of removing the frame welding up and dressing the welds.   I decided not to weld the A frame to the chassis because I'd already painted it the chassis when I decided I wanted to remove the Jago  overhang.  (inspired by Dan 123 and a number of others Willy Jago's shown on the forum.) So I opted for Rivnts,  M10,  4 per side. More that capable of taking the max toeing weight of a Jago. 

If I were to tackle this again I'd serious consider revising the whole back end to accommodate shorter rear springs. 

Made progress so will post what the old girl looks like now.  

Remember there's no wrong way with  a kit car. As long as the engineering is sound and safe we can be truly individual.

 

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Hey @wheado, thanks for the info and the pics. I am currently making a new chassis from the ground up (mine has had it) and am incorporating a few modifications (as you have done). I hadn't considered different springs, interesting idea. I have quite a bit of steel stock here so I will give making my own A-Frame a go. It should certainly make the chassis more rigid and happy to tow a trailer! I have ordered the rear cross member, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. This, coupled with bumperettes will get rid of that unsightly rear ago bumper and make it look 1000 times better! 

I have also finished my blank firing .50 cal, currently drawing the mounting frame in CAD! I have access to a metal laser cutter and the chassis and now .50cal pedestal has been drawn in CAD and has been/will be laser cut from steel. Makes fabrication so much less fiddly!

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Hi Coombed. I've followed your design on The Jago owners Facebook page.  (Though it might be you.)  Your welding is very good. Desk jockey Engineers, like me, can only look on and weep. 

 I'd did consider making my own A frame, but it turned out cheaper to buy a Ford GPW replica and modify it.  If I had access to some decent tools it would have been a no brainer.

Looking forward to seeing how you verified  alignment of the shock mounts.  

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