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The blue cotton over jackets started off dark indigo blue but faded with use and boil washing, becoming progressively paler. Very similar items are still worn on the footplates of steam engines. The over trousers are possibly the same material, but they may also be oil skins  (water proofs) and your guess is as good as mine as to the colour.

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That's very useful information. I can picture that blue - my Dad worked in overalls that were dark blue becoming almost an "Airforce blue" over time. I must get the paints out again - the blue  jacket will add a bit of interest to the picture. Thanks again!

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On 3/15/2016 at 11:23 AM, Old Bill said:

We don't put anti-freeze in as the coolant doesn't stay there long enough! Normally, we drain it down because it stays idle for such long periods.

I think you would be better to put anti-freeze or at least some anti-corrosion additive in the water and leave it in there. When you drain it, you are leaving it wet with humid air around - perfect galvanic corrosion conditions. You have Al plus Fe in close proximity with electrical connection through the water. Can you catch the leakage and pour it back in? You might want to use the latest technology too - OAT - because of the aluminium in there.

Thank you for making the effort to bring the photos across from Photobucket. I wouldn't have been able to read this amazing thread, otherwise! Or your others. They are all very absorbing. You have far more patience in attempting to the things you do than I.

What grease do you use in the steering box? Normally, NLGI 2 or similar is not very good because it is wiped off the worm on the first few turns and doesn't flow back. We use NLGI 00 semi-fluid grease.

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8 hours ago, Spinneyhill said:

I think you would be better to put anti-freeze or at least some anti-corrosion additive in the water and leave it in there. When you drain it, you are leaving it wet with humid air around - perfect galvanic corrosion conditions. You have Al plus Fe in close proximity with electrical connection through the water. Can you catch the leakage and pour it back in? You might want to use the latest technology too - OAT - because of the aluminium in there.

 

Agree with antifreeze/anti corrosion additive but OAT antifreeze can react with certain soldered copper/brass connections.

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7 hours ago, radiomike7 said:

Agree with antifreeze/anti corrosion additive but OAT antifreeze can react with certain soldered copper/brass connections.

Sorry, this is nonsense. Modern engines, for which this was developed, contain magnesium, aluminium and similar metals and alloys right at the top of the galvanic series. They are very highly corrodible. Solder consists of metals further down the galvanic series. OAT antifreeze is safe with ALL metals. Read the bottle. Look up the web sites of makers.

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As I was not inclined to pay Photobucket the $1,000 a year ransom for my photos they have blurred and watermarked them all. I do have backups and will try to replace them but this will take me an awful long time to complete. I will start with the Peerless ones. A downside is that it is now impossible to get the captions to match up, but I am sure that you will all work this out. If you need to see any photo specifically please let me know and I will treat that one as a priority.

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I did not mean any criticism whatsoever. I was very thankful you brought the photos across. There are a few here and there, not many, but don't worry about it. I realise it is a lot of work. Frankly, your work is so absorbing I would rather you put the time into the restoration!

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This is most unfortunate to happen to the photos. The entire restoration story as an archive has been compromised and no longer are the technical aspects of the photos clear to show the progressive stages of work. 

 I question if this is occurring to other restoration stories using HMVF?

 Doug   

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Sorry, I was not responding to any implied criticism, just my frustration at Photobucket black mailing me. I have just updated page one of the Thornycroft and nearly finished the Peerless thread. There are about a further 4,650 photos for me to replace, so I better get back to it then.

Interestingly, these threads still attract a great deal of interest and it would be a shame to loose it all. Very sadly, a great deal of other threads and photos will have been lost. Anyway, normal services will be resumed as soon as possible. 

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I have always quite enjoyed trying to find the correct accessories for a military vehicle just to finish it off. Many photographs show GS trucks with a pick and either a shovel or spade on the side. When studying photos it seems that a spade was more common than a shovel. Steve made for the Dennis the correct pattern brackets which hold them together, although i am a little doubtful if they would have lasted on long bumpy roads before dropping off.

While at Malvern recently I picked up a 1917 dated pick axe. It looked spot on and had the metal ferrule in place and was quite reasonably priced. A present for Steve and he wasted no time on fitting it to the lorry. A spade or shovel are required next to join it.

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In the days before the internet, sometimes, as we restored something, a bit of licence had to be used.  I was more than fortunate to obtain a WW1 spade dated 1917 and stamped ALBION, I had no idea that they made spades as well as vehicles, at an Aussie Disposals shop in Bairnsdale.  The shop owner actually put it aside for me knowing that I has my Albion.(I also picked up one dated 1944 stamped BEDFORD for a mates Bedford QL there as well.)

  I had no idea of the fittings and as I was in a bit of a hurry to get the vehicle ready for the Television Series, "The Anzacs" made here in Victoria Australia, I had to guess the best way to attach the tools to the side.  Later, via the internet and after a visit to the Albion Archives in Biggar Scotland, I realize that one day I will have get around to manufacturing the original style brackets.  

Attached is a photo I copied in Biggar in 2009 showing the correct placements and some photos of the fantastic apprentice made model they also have on display at the archives.  (There is also another model, the same, in the Australian War Memorial in Canberra which was presented to to AWM at the opening in 1941.) 

My tool fittings pass with a push with the uninitiated  as all the tools are WWI and are shown here.

Regards Rick.

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What stops the tools from just falling out when jolting along a rough road/track, as there don't appear to be any straps? or, heaven forbid, being borrowed?

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An Albion shovel. What a fantastic find. I will be taking a closer look at any ore that I find.

Although it looks like they might drop off they shouldn't be able to move. There are several variations to the mounting bracket. On the Dennis, the pick axe is firmly wedged down through the bracket and cant get out. The spade can slide laterally only an inch or so and shouldn't be able to drop out because of the pick. There is nothing to stop people removing them though and that is something I will have to keep in mind if we leave vehicles alone for very long.  

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