43rdrecce Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 For those that might be interested I have just listed a genuine pair of these braces on the dreaded fleabay. Item no. 200778580641 Cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I saw those and wondered what the hell they were:laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43rdrecce Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yes not very well known and as the numbers made must be quite small they seldom turn up. At the end of each brace there are three inch loops to enable them to be slipped over a waistbelt. One of them has a loop to enable them to be crossed over in the small of the back just like '37 pattern. They're listed in COSAs as Patt. '58 as follows: 8465-99-130-0246 BRACES, INDIVIDUAL EQUIPMENT Detail SAS; webbing; cotton; olive drab; 43. 3/8 in. lg o/a 1958 Pattern; web equipment 8465-99-130-0247 POUCH, AMMUNITION, 1958 Pattern, Self loading rifle Detail Webbing, cotton; olive drab. For use by SAS Regt only 8465-99-130-0248 POUCH, AMMUNITION, 1958 Pattern, Armalite Detail Webbing, cotton; olive drab. For use by SAS Regt only 8465-99-130-0249 POUCH, RATION, ESCAPE Detail Webbing, cotton; olive drab. 1958 Pattern for SAS Regt only 8465-99-130-0250 POUCH, ALTIMETER Detail Webbing cotton; olive drab; 1958 Pattern; web equipment for SAS only 8465-99-130-0251 SHEATH, KNIFE Detail Webbing cotton; olive drab; web equipment; 1958 Pattern for use by SAS only The Detail column has inconsistent text. They were not present in CCN 1965, they were introduced between 1965 & 1976, specifically for SAS and I've never seen photos showing otherwise. The dropped loops were because SAS favoured Bergens, their multi-day patrols requiring more to be carried. The lumbar strap of the bergen coincides with the waistbelt, so all pouches had to be below it. -0251 inverts to Sheath Knife. It's not, of course, its a sheath for a knife, specifically such as Victorinox Swiss Army, Gerber, etc Trade Pattern stuff. Marked GQ makes it very interesting. RFD-GQ took over Mills in 1970s, their product lines being reasonably coincident. Venture capitalists thereafter screwed everything up. Hope this is of interest. Cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 8465-99-130-0251 SHEATH, KNIFE Anybody please got a pic or any more infor on the above,seen a pic somewhere but cannot for the life of me find it again:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdbikemad Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Yes not very well known and as the numbers made must be quite small they seldom turn up. At the end of each brace there are three inch loops to enable them to be slipped over a waistbelt. One of them has a loop to enable them to be crossed over in the small of the back just like '37 pattern. They're listed in COSAs as Patt. '58 as follows: 8465-99-130-0246 BRACES, INDIVIDUAL EQUIPMENT Detail SAS; webbing; cotton; olive drab; 43. 3/8 in. lg o/a 1958 Pattern; web equipment 8465-99-130-0247 POUCH, AMMUNITION, 1958 Pattern, Self loading rifle Detail Webbing, cotton; olive drab. For use by SAS Regt only 8465-99-130-0248 POUCH, AMMUNITION, 1958 Pattern, Armalite Detail Webbing, cotton; olive drab. For use by SAS Regt only 8465-99-130-0249 POUCH, RATION, ESCAPE Detail Webbing, cotton; olive drab. 1958 Pattern for SAS Regt only 8465-99-130-0250 POUCH, ALTIMETER Detail Webbing cotton; olive drab; 1958 Pattern; web equipment for SAS only 8465-99-130-0251 SHEATH, KNIFE Detail Webbing cotton; olive drab; web equipment; 1958 Pattern for use by SAS only The Detail column has inconsistent text. They were not present in CCN 1965, they were introduced between 1965 & 1976, specifically for SAS and I've never seen photos showing otherwise. The dropped loops were because SAS favoured Bergens, their multi-day patrols requiring more to be carried. The lumbar strap of the bergen coincides with the waistbelt, so all pouches had to be below it. -0251 inverts to Sheath Knife. It's not, of course, its a sheath for a knife, specifically such as Victorinox Swiss Army, Gerber, etc Trade Pattern stuff. Marked GQ makes it very interesting. RFD-GQ took over Mills in 1970s, their product lines being reasonably coincident. Venture capitalists thereafter screwed everything up. Hope this is of interest. Cheers Paul RFD also took over Beaufort Air-Sea Equipment Ltd, famous makers of 60s - 80s RAF aircrew clothing and equipment...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 8465-99-130-0251 SHEATH, KNIFE Anybody please got a pic or any more infor on the above,seen a pic somewhere but cannot for the life of me find it again:-( It was a simple loop over the belt with a pocket that took the standard issue clasp knife if it's the one I'm thinking of. Used to be worn in barracks more than in field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enfield1940 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Hi, Apologies for necroposting... but I have a spare pair of the SAS braces in near mint condition and would ideally like to swap them for one of the following: SAS Armalite Ammo Pouch SAS SLR Ammo Pouch SAS Escape Ration Pouch As I also collect ordnance, I would also consider a swap for one of the following shell cases: 3 Pounder 2cwt 3.7" Mortar 3" Howitzer 17 Pounder 20 Pounder Any takers? Cheers, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webkitlover Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I might have to get some of those braces, i just looked down the pouch list and I have everything on it! I have my "SAS" pouches set up with a 58Yoke, which stops them slipping around the belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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