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With all the nonsense arising from "OOOH there might be a tanker drivers strike" I wondered if the Jerrycan on the back of me jeep would be legal if full ? All manner of sources seem to say 10 litres max (actually a quick search reveals 10,20 and 30 all quoted as the legal max) but no law has been cited.

 

Whats the collective HMVF take on this matter ?

 

 

Edit this from the BBC (formerly the premier news provider on the planet)

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/17548007

 

 

 

Kind of answered me own question by doing a bit of online shuftying. Found this rather well written guide from of all people The Royal Yachting association

 

http://www.rya.org.uk/sitecollectiondocuments/legal/Web%20Documents/Legal%20Leaflets/Clubs/Premises/CARRIAGE%20AND%20STORAGE%20OF%20PETROL.pdf

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i don't think it would be a good idea to carry a jerrycan full of fuel on you jeep, because as soon as you turn your back someone may find 20 ltrs of free fuel very tempting!!

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Ferry companies get very ansty over jerrycans, I normally leave the top open. Also would you really like twenty litres of fuel sitting right in the impact zone of a crash? Plus unleaded fuel decays very quickly. Not to mention the story of the lady today decanting fuel. Nah, when mounted on vehicle, show only! As for petrol fuel storage, I've always belived no more than 20 litres may be stored in a purpose built metal container, and 5 litre in a purpose built plastic container. Get Disiel no problems there.

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a few yrs ago i was stopped with over 30 full jerry cans of derv on back of transit,police seized truck threatend alsorts i contacted the elf and safety who passed me round different deptpartments untill a nice lady who was senior managment rang stratford police station for me and gave them the good/bad news that there were no limmits to storing moving diesel,petrol yes diesel no!

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On every drive back from Germany we always fill as many jerry cans as we can carry, get to Calais fill up and bin the cans, but keep 40 ltrs for the drive on the UK side, tax free fuel is the way ahead, usually lasts us a week before having to pay the robbing sods in UK.

 

*I have a diesel car.

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just heard on telly woman burnt whilst decanting from petrol can too glass jug in her kitchen with gas hob lit ! sounds like a candidate for darwin awards!

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Ignorance takes no prisioners. But neither does over confidence. There but for the Grace of God.

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there is an additive now (can`t remember the name) that you put in petrol and it stops it going off for a year :D

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there is an additive now (can`t remember the name) that you put in petrol and it stops it going off for a year :D

Lead? :-D Forte do an Advanced Gas Tretment. Good stuff to wash out a vehicle that has had stale fuel in. You can add direct to the bad fuel, I prefer to drain where possible put in a couple of gallons of fresh and add the Forte. Though I've known a Broquet Catalyst that had been in a vehicle with fuel left standing for several months. The fuel smelled OK and the vehicle ran OK on it.

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Because Jeeps are so Thirsty I always ensure that my Jerrycan has fuel in it (also stops corrosion) ..However i booked onto the Chunnel and was advised that 10L was the maximum I could carry ..I asked if that meant they wanted a half full jerry can ........So half fuel of fumes but as it became clear the helpline staff did not understand what a Jerrycan was ..I soon gave up

 

 

When I arrived at the terminal ..I was asked the content of the Jerrycan and because it was half full was asked to decant what i could into the fuel tan ...(All of it thanks to an idea it might go wrong and they filled the jerrycan with water and returned it to me with a supply of explosive stickers to put on the jeep ...I was then escorted onto the train ..it was very impressive ...............

 

 

On the ferry on the way back ...No issues at all ...................

 

 

I always use to keep 20L of fuel but since ethenol was added it simply goes of to Quickly ...I have quite a few half tins with gone off petrol a handy but expensive source of washing petrol ...

 

 

I would advise to keep a thin wash in the tanks to stop rust but storage of fuel for more than 6 months can be a costly waste ..

 

 

 

Jenkinov

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Jerrycans with petrol always make a bit nervous! I keep 10-15 litres in one of the five on the 101 and trailer but never more.

 

I have vague memories of someone saying you should earth a jerrycan on the body before you open it as static could be a problem as you touch the neck off the filler. Can anyone verify this?

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I think earthing is a good idea , the military manuals recommend leaning a metal jack handle or similar against the metal part of the vehicle and the ground.

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Our late friend James once had a fire igniting the fueltank on his Ferret.

After that he allways earthed it before fulling and had a extuinguisher ready.

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good advice ferret manual does tell u earth ferret before refuelling do i do it no!, will i start if i remember yes:-D best way would be pull up to pump remove nozzle touch nozzle to metal part of ferret then unscrew fuel cap? or chain from say inspection access on hull dragging along ground just like some old cars had

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good advice ferret manual does tell u earth ferret before refuelling do i do it no!, will i start if i remember yes:-D best way would be pull up to pump remove nozzle touch nozzle to metal part of ferret then unscrew fuel cap? or chain from say inspection access on hull dragging along ground just like some old cars had

 

On Ferret you drop one end of the tow chain to the ground

on some tanks they have an earth lead that you unwind and a spike that you are supposed to bang in the ground before filling up

 

intreresting that there was a fire on a Ferret - I thought modern petrol station pumps made it impossible to get a spark?

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As for petrol fuel storage, I've always belived no more than 20 litres may be stored in a purpose built metal container, and 5 litre in a purpose built plastic container. Get Disiel no problems there.

 

the difficulty is in filling them up! Round my way the licences regs for each garagae restrict them to only allowing customers to fill 10l metal containers only

forecourt CCTV notwithstanding I am now rather good at hiding what I 'm doing from view when filling my cans!

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user handbook says lean crowbar against vehicle or tow chain to ground.:cool2:

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