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Hi Brass Cleaner !

Yup its the tank and hoops from a great war Cart Water Tank ,do you own it ? is it in use and can you senda photo from the back end please well done !

Nige

 

Nothing to do with me, it belongs to a Shropshire oil baron who is restoring it to go behind his traction engine.

 

I'll ask for a picture from the back for you.

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I bought some local post cards recently of Army manoeuvres from 1905, amongst them was one which has what appears to be a water tank, I've attached a copy for interest

Regards Gary

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I dont normally KISS men ! but i will if i can buy that from you for this project:-D:-D

kindest regards , as with my wagon i had a copy made in case someone nicked the original stays in the house !

Nige

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Looks wonderful!

 

What does 'NBR' stand for? Might it be 'North British Railway Co'?

 

Cheers!

 

Steve

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The Plate will be copied on Wednesday and the copy fitted as with the GS Wagons ive done, Only because as with the one that was on the "Fromelles" wagon they get stolen hence why the "Fromelles" Wagon has a copy of mine when the wagon is actually a Metro Built wagon i renumbered the plate E 190710 ! keep a eye out for those pumps lads and filters too !

Nige

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Does it say anything in the text on your drawing about the pump such as displacement, flow rate, pipe sizes, thread fittings or any other clues about it? Do any examples exist somewhere to your knowledge?

 

Steve

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Sadly nothing on the drawing re the pumps, as yet i know no other example of a complete Cart or the pumps ! but somewhere in the world there is one or a drawing of them fingers crossed !

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What is the diameter across the wheel treads so that I can scale the pumps from the drawing? Also, what are the pumps doing? Are they sucking up water from anywhere convenient and pushing it through the filters or am I completely misreading them? It looks as if a suction hose might screw onto the bottom end.

 

Steve

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Re the scale, i have a original pump mounting bracket (and 2 new ones) the bracket can be seen in both photos the holes that take the fixing bolts are 4 1/4 inches on center ! the wheels are 54 inches the old photo blows up clear if you down load it and you can see the pumps fixed to this bracket type in a horizontal postion and not vertical as per most drawings and photos

kindest regards Nige

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WATER CART 4.jpg

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Hi Steve,

The pumps had inlet hoses on them that as you correctly stated were thrown into a nearby water supply stream etc these had a float on them and a rose the water was then pumped up with the cranked t handle as per the drawing and photos,

through the bottom of the pump body and out the top into and through the filters before ending up clean in the tank itself !

Kind Regards

Nige

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OK. There is enough to be going on with.

 

Have you done much pattern making for foundry work as these will be made from gunmetal castings?

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Hi Steve,

I have never made a pattern for foundry work , i would guess turned from wood and if hollow cut through the middle (school boy memories) and each half pressed in sand then bolted together in iron blocks ?

Kind Regards

Nige

p/s do you work in the casting or metal products industry ?

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I've been wondering about the pump used on this Water Cart. It does look of a similar design to the Differential pumps used on WWII Bowsers, is it possible that as it worked in 1918, the same pump design was carried on into 1940's?

 

Anyway, below is a cut away drawing of the 1940's vintage Differential Pump with pressure relief valve, could be used to make a pattern for your Water Cart:

 

Differential Pump  WO5460 1949 (Medium).JPG

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