richard sweeney Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) hi, im the new owner of an uparmoured humber pig as used in northen island. the restoration is in progress with wheels just restored. Its a non runner so tips or advice would be helpful. picture is without wheels restored Below is with the rear wheels restored Edited August 28, 2011 by richard sweeney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Welcome Richard. I wonder what the military registration was? I will be able to give you some basic history. You say it is non-runner, in what way? Does the engine turn over & nothing happen? Or doesn't it even do that? Or does the engine run & it doesn't move? There are a number of Pig owners on here who will be particularly pleased to see you & watch the progress of the restoration. Your front OS tyre looks a bit low. Always a bit misleading with runflats, I have driven a Humber with 0 psi in each front tyre although the steering was a bit peculiar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard sweeney Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 the military reg is : 31 BK 09. the guy who gave it to me has the dates it was uparmoured aswell as each regiment it was used in. all the electrics need re attaching, im unsure what state the engine is in only done 680miles though. The brake and clutch systems need bleeding, needs new coolant and oil , spare exhaust system to be fitting including two spare fuel tanks then it should start. all the spares came with it thankfully ! It hasnt run for at least a few years, anything i should look at in particular ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike65 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Welcome in, you have come to the right place. Where abouts are you? Always quite liked Pigs, never been quite sure why. Maybe its the looks, Quite a distinct style. Used to help my Grandfather show his, when I was young, but they were Tamworths. so probably totally unconnected. Keep us posted on progress. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Richard I have nothing on Unit histories so would be interested in seeing what you have got. A bit ironic that it was struck off after "The Troubles" had started only to be recovered 3 years later. Anyway no need to worry about bleeding the clutch:D Good that it came with all those bits. For basic reading I would get hold of the User Handbook reprint: http://www.shop.milweb.net/proddetail.php?prod=mlrs_1128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard sweeney Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 ah yes forgot about the clutch, one less thing to do he gave me all the technical manuals for it and i will try and get a photo of the unit history mike65 - im in guernsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Welcome Richard to the Forum, you are to be congratulated on many counts! First off, thank you so much for choosing your name rather than "pigmaninNI" or something silly like that as your user name, pet rant of mine. Second for taking on a challenge like a Pig. Could I be so bold as to suggest that you perform as search on the forum for other Pig related posts, that will likely help you. So you are aware Clive is quite the walkin encyclopedia of British MVs and you are lucky to have his input! Once again welcome Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Richard. Excellent that you have a range of manuals, an essential part of good Pig stewardship. Did you have to import it or was it there already? At the time it was finally struck off there was, I'm led to believe, a CI connection with C J Evans Ordnance who had a number of Pigs for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard sweeney Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 not sure when it was imported but it was used in the film " the crying game " then parked outside the cinema over here. later on a guy called chris jinks took it off their hands, he collected all the bits but gave it to me as he didnt have the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hi Richard and welcome to the forum. Look forward to your restoration. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin parke Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 hi richard and welcome m8,,,, im in the process of restoring mine also , just finished making a new window frame and painting and recovering the seats etc .. mine set still for over a year and i put in two new batteries and after a few winds she started up ... clive on here is the expert on pigs he has a wealth off knowlage ... good luck with the restoration and keep us posted.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hi Richard , welcome to the forum , great to see another Pig getting some much deserved love and attention ! Good luck with her ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hello Richard and welcome to 'The Sty'. You are in the right place to get your Pig sorted and you must keep us posted on progress. It's all about sharing the knowledge and learning. Together of course with 'real time' restoration experiences. I look forward to your updates and the wheel refurb looks really good. I must confess my time outside work has been focussed on collating spares and other essential items for my restoration and future longevity of my FV1611A. None of which I could have managed without Clive I have to say. Out of interest did you use Nato green or DBG? I have wondered how many Pigs if any were actually painted in Desert Sand as they are not that common in that scheme, albeit there have been some odd interpretations by owners, visible over the Net. Regards :thumbsup: Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalwart Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hi Richard, I am a new Pig owner too so I understand the challenges ! Good luck with your restoration. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Good, good, the Grandstand is filling up with spectators and wellwishers! I'm also pushing for a frontseat! Good luck and remember, you can never post too many pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lssah2025 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 welcome aboard.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard sweeney Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 cheers guys just been sorting out transport of the pig into my driveway then the work will begin! Rover8FFR- its nato green, i plan to use this throughout the project in the mean time i have put the fourth wheel on and just cleaning one of the replacememt fuel tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big ray Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Hi Richard, welcome to the forum, when you have spent countless hours over this labour of love, and you attend the shows, you will soon realise that the vehicles take second place in this wonderful hobby of ours, its the wonderful people that you will meet that make everything worthwhile....... good luck with the restoration, stay with the forum, and keep us informed of your progress. :kissoncheek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsydingo Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 hi, im the new owner of an uparmoured humber pig as used in northen island. the restoration is in progress with wheels just restored. Its a non runner so tips or advice would be helpful. picture is without wheels restored Below is with the rear wheels restored Hi Richard, I have been off line for a while. It may interest you to know that the Pig used to belong to me I obtained it from the Mallard in an attempt to save it from the scrap man. It came to Guernsey after it was used as one of the vehicles in the film "The crying Game" I also understand it was used in another wich had the name Hilton in the title. It sadly was badly vandalised and after an aproch from Jinksy he took the project on a number of years ago. Good luck with the project it would be good to see it back on the roads again. To my memory we last got it running about eight years ago. Regards Gsydingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard sweeney Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 Hi Richard, I have been off line for a while. It may interest you to know that the Pig used to belong to me I obtained it from the Mallard in an attempt to save it from the scrap man. It came to Guernsey after it was used as one of the vehicles in the film "The crying Game" I also understand it was used in another wich had the name Hilton in the title. It sadly was badly vandalised and after an aproch from Jinksy he took the project on a number of years ago. Good luck with the project it would be good to see it back on the roads again. To my memory we last got it running about eight years ago.Regards Gsydingo. hi i cant believe that ive bumped into an owner of it ! what was wrong with it from your memory that stopped it from running ? any info on it would be fantastic - im just getting stuck into it and will get engine running soon. - how do you turn the engine over by hand as i dont have the right tool to fit on othe crankshaft end? was it looked after before the mallard and what did the vandals damage ? so many questions. will be in contact when it gets running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard sweeney Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 really need to turn the engine over by hand so here we are with spark plugs removed, WD40 down into the cyclinders via spark plug holes in an attempt to free off the engine. Any other ideas on how to manually turn the engine over would be helpful. Just making up this metal coolant pipe with flexi-hose as it was split. Just cleaning up engine bay and chasis ready for paint or some form of protection. Fuel tanks will be painted, new fuel lines and breather lines made up and then fitted. After this i will make up new copper brake lines - anybody know the diameter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Poor some diesel into each of the spark plug holes, you will probably find that only two cylinders are seized. Refit the spark plugs and leave sealed up for two weeks and then remove the spark plugs and find out which of the cylinders are seized. Two of them should be still full up with diesel unless of course its seeped past the rings. A couple of squirts of oil down the other bores from an oil can won't hurt the engine. Spinning the engine presuming that the engine has its boss for inserting the starting handle you should be able to fit it and stand on it. If you can't do that the crankshaft pulley should have a nice big nut on it that you can do something similar with with a big set of stilisons or an adjustable spanner. I won't tell you how long it took me to turn my engine over but I wasn't in any hurry Edited July 17, 2011 by ferrettkitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard sweeney Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 thanks, is diesel ok even though it ran on leaded petrol? im just trying to obtain a starting handle - at the moment i have just been turning the fan and the belts have been slipping even though i have tightened them. hopefully with a starting handle i'll be able to turn it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 thanks, is diesel ok even though it ran on leaded petrol? im just trying to obtain a starting handle - at the moment i have just been turning the fan and the belts have been slipping even though i have tightened them. hopefully with a starting handle i'll be able to turn it Yes diesel is o.k. its a recognised way of unseizing engines I think well known brand of cola has been used before now. It just means that you have to change the oil almost straight away once you have it rotating. If it doesn't want to rotate it would mean that you will have to take the head off to have a look at what the problem is. That might not be a bad idea anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingp Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 another piggy . welcome to the world of pigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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