murray watton Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Happy new year to all,, hi only just joind,,need to know where the two oil pipes go from filter, i know one is to the timeing chian ,,cant seam to work out the other ,,is it some thing to do with the oil pressure line,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 murray, the oil filter has short line from bottom of the filter to the timing cover and a long line that starts at a union behind the fuel pump to the top of the filter...hope this helps ....best regards Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murray watton Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 Many thanks,,only been a mechanic for 30 odd years ,,i think i need a other union my first jeep,,but i can see it now ,,thanks , murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hi Murray, These pictures of my work in progress might help? The first shows the long oil line route from the oil filter down past the fuel pump. The second shows the oil line 'nestling' past the oil pump before going in to the lower union. Unless someone can suggest another method, I have found that saw cutting a slot in to the top of the fuel pump bolt is the only way I can tighten the b*gger up, using a large screwdriver, as I can't get a spanner or socket anywhere near it! Cheers Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murray watton Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 Thanks si, thats perfect,, if i can ask,, my jeep d,o,d 19, 5, 42,am i right in saying no torq re action spring?looks like it never had one ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 http://wiki.g503.com/index.php/GPW_Judging_Standards Here you can find the MVPA GPW Judging Standard; it has loads of information on what is and what is not correct or original on a GPW from a certain period. Greetz David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hi Murray, I think you could be right, but I am not 100% sure. I think the change was around May 42, and earlier ones were retro-fitted. Others will know for sure. Mine GPW is 12th May 42 DoD and it does have the torque spring fitted. Cheers Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadline Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) To get to that bolt you need a socket (deep), a universal joint, and a 3in + extension. Its quite easy to get to after you do it once. Whats with the braided oil lines? The rubber ones work fine and don't stick out as much visually. Also, the red striped water hoses were a MB thing. Proper repos are available for Fords. The G503 wiki is a bit out of date and vastly incomplete. GO here: http://jeepdraw.com/PART_COLOURS.htm Great reference for GPW/MBs. Edited January 1, 2011 by deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hi Deadline, Thanks for the tip with the bolt. I have seen pictures of the braided oil lines on early Jeeps, and went with it. I'm not doing a 'factory standard' rebuild, but if I'm getting replacement parts, I am trying to get it right. Similarly the radiator hose; the red striped top hose is a Ford part (full length rubber for the early Jeep). Cheers Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murray watton Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 http://wiki.g503.com/index.php/GPW_Judging_Standards Here you can find the MVPA GPW Judging Standard; it has loads of information on what is and what is not correct or original on a GPW from a certain period. Greetz David thanks ,,interesting reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadline Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hi Deadline, Thanks for the tip with the bolt. I have seen pictures of the braided oil lines on early Jeeps, and went with it. I'm not doing a 'factory standard' rebuild, but if I'm getting replacement parts, I am trying to get it right. Similarly the radiator hose; the red striped top hose is a Ford part (full length rubber for the early Jeep). Cheers Simon For reference you may want to get a free copy of TM10-1513 (May 15, 1942) its on the jeepdraw web site. The red stripe is not a GPW part. Ford marked all their parts (with very few exemptions). I agree that a motor mechanic is going to use whatever the supply Sgt gave him, and you may have seen it in pictures, but the Jeepdraw guide is pretty much cast in stone for all but some minor issues. As for the braided steel oil lines, I believe that is also an error. The TM10 calls for rubber. Plus, if the oil line WAS braided steel, there would be no need for the rubber grommet on the oil filter bracket. The grommet was to protect the rubber hose from wearing on the metal. I understand you are not going for 'factory class'... so this is just informational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 My 42 Ford engine bay,as restored by Tony Sudds.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadline Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) Very nice... only things I can mention are is the harness is not cloth covered and the BO driving light harness. Beat my jeep hands down. Edited January 2, 2011 by deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 The harness is in fact hessien covered.Its not really clear from the pics.Tony was infact making these at the time and actually supplied a loom for King Michael of Romainia. Its been 22 years since the rebuild. But still looks fresh..... This is still the original tub.The "F" logo and GPW is stamped on the gearbox bulge near to where the right side front of the seat bolts to the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadline Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 What is "hessien covered" if I might ask? The headlight harness looks like it has the standard electrical tape wrapping, not braided cotton. I all assume that you put on a second service stop light instead of a BO stop light for driving on streets? That seems to be a popular modification. Other than the stencil font and what appears to be gloss paint (or did it rain? There is significant reflection of the registration numbers on the top of the fender... a flat paint would not have this effect. Other than those items it looks good. Much better than what shows up a events I've seen recently. One 'jeep' even had a tailgate (it was a CJ painted up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Its painted in drab olive that was made by glasrit. The paint is no longer available. It originally was gloss. But it has had a lot of matting agent added to it.It looks a bit shiney in the picture as i have just applied some WD40 on it with a rag. Its natural look has a slight sheen to it. To be honest its the best paint i have ever come across. The picture was taken last year. And the actual jeep was painted 22 years ago. So not bad really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Its painted in drab olive that was made by glasrit. The paint is no longer available. It originally was gloss. But it has had a lot of matting agent added to it.It looks a bit shiney in the picture as i have just applied some WD40 on it with a rag. Its natural look has a slight sheen to it. To be honest its the best paint i have ever come across. The picture was taken last year. And the actual jeep was painted 22 years ago. So not bad really. That vehicle is equisite! Very Tidy INDEED :bow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Thankyou:thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadline Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Thanks for answering my questions. I hope I get my jeep up to that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fayjo56 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 A credit to the owner and the restorer!. Dont want to hijack the thread, but WD40 on a rag seems a good tip, is this common? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Dont want to hijack the thread, but WD40 on a rag seems a good tip, is this common? Yes ! It works well on paint that is old, looks a bit shiny until the WD40 has dried, then protects it, good for getting into seams and holding back any corrosion too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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