handler 69 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Hey all Now being the proud owner of Basil the Fox, I have come up against something that I really need help with.......HE WON"T START :blush: Compression is fine average 155, plugs have all been cleaned and gapped and now spark fine. Awful strong smell of fuel, I have been told that the Fox "floods" at the drop of a hat. We had him going last Saturday and once he had warmed up was fine but since then he refuses to play the game. Gentlemen if you have any ideas I really would like to hear them :embarrassed:, aside from backing him up the driveway I have yet to drive him and would love to do so......please, please help. Cheers Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I'm sure others with more experience of running Foxes will tell you more clearly but I can tell what others have said, that blowing the exhaust apart from raw fuel igniting is a real occurence and more fun than you need. I have found on "no start" occasions to stop and leave it for a day to clear and start all over again using less if any choke. I think Lee has posted various items on his fuel pumps etc. I suspect that cranking a few times from cold with no choke will actually get fuel up through the system. I deeply suspect that it drains back down between usage. More when we get ours running again. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handler 69 Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 Well we found the problem.....a dirty great nest of crap and dirt! Throughly blown out and a new filter put in....starts first time now....thank god! Cheers Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) Some migrant Croydon Sparrow? :-D Funny enough something similar happned with a US Fire Engine shipped to Croydon by COVES. Might be three weeks of constant shaking disturbing the muck. Edited October 29, 2010 by Tony B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Astonishly enough I though I might get in here with a tip, but I am too late. I had a Peugeot 309. I discovered (AA man told me) a "feature" of the Peugeot automatic choke that if it stalled in the first two minutes in the cold, it wouldn't start. Pop the bonnet, Allen key the air filter to get at the carb underneath. Poke the Allen key through the closed automatic choke to hold it open. Jump in. Start car (first time, no problems). Jump out, reverse process, keeping revs up using the throttle cable if necessary. Jump in. Drive off. Sorted. Since then I have only owned VWs with electronic ignition and I just turn the key and drive off. Sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handler 69 Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 Thanks guys Gunna go for my first drive in Basil today....we have a few things to replace before he makes his first drive through the Aussie bush! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Thanks guysGunna go for my first drive in Basil today....we have a few things to replace before he makes his first drive through the Aussie bush! :-D have fun, and plenty of piccys Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handler 69 Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Spent the day cleaning out filters. I suppose I will have to do the oil next :nut:, does that mean I have to pull the motor out?? Hey mate how can I sign up for "Forces 80"? :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Hey mate how can I sign up for "Forces 80"? :-D you could try via my link to the website, but I dont think we recruiting at moment mate!!! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I suppose I will have to do the oil next :nut:, does that mean I have to pull the motor out?? Hi mate, The engine drain plug is accessed through a plate under the hull, situated approx. below the distributor and forward a few inches. Best of luck! Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Spent the day cleaning out filters. I suppose I will have to do the oil next :nut:, does that mean I have to pull the motor out?? Do you have the user handbook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handler 69 Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Hey mate Yes Eddie sent me over all the manuals, including all the exploded diagrams. Was just wondering as I would like to change the filters ( or clean them) and how hard it would be to tune him up. It certainly won't take much to put him back into shape for sure. Cheers Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 In that case all the information you need on changing the filters should be in the manuals. As for tuining it up, is it on electronic ignition or points? If it's electronic I doubt it needs any tuning. There should be a yellow warning sticker on the top of the distributor if the electronic module is fitted. I find J60s are very sensitive to spark plugs and always run much better on a fresh set of RSN12Ys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handler 69 Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Just got some new spark plugs, he has points so reckon he will need a tune up Does anyone know where I can get a new air filter from? This one is just about R/S, is there a civillian version I can get? I can't wait to see the postage it would cost me to get one here! :shocked: Just bought two mirrors for my Landie for 8.00pds....postage 44.00 pds.......she who must be obeyed ain't impressed and Iam in the dog house again :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 The air filter is a Coopers AZA311 http://www.hgvdirect.co.uk/catalog/heavy-duty-truck-air-filter-coopers-aza311-p-60011.html?osCsid=199faee2a8c0329ceb120e00cda97f6e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Just bought two mirrors for my Landie for 8.00pds....postage 44.00 pds.......she who must be obeyed ain't impressed and Iam in the dog house again :cry: Get them to use P2G next time.. lots cheaper http://www.parcel2go.com/service/dhl-worldwide-express.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handler 69 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 Well we can't get that filter in Tasmania ( no ferkin surprise there ) so from Merry old England it must come....hopefully next boat load of convicts please ( we are starting to get used to boat people here :-D) Anyway Basil bite the mechanic and I have to take the carbie off to have it fixed, think Basil's being more of a pig than a fox :nut: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Just got some new spark plugs, he has points so reckon he will need a tune up I'm sure Eddie said it had electronic ignition.. if not change it to electronic, if you can not locate an original module kit contact Jolley, he should be able to help as the distributor is similar to a B60 distributor but running in reverse.. see page 11 http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/IGNITIONMATTERS.pdf worth reading this article before you start messing with the points anyway Anyway Basil bite the mechanic and I have to take the carbie off to have it fixed, What's broken?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 The air filter is a Coopers AZA311 http://www.hgvdirect.co.uk/catalog/heavy-duty-truck-air-filter-coopers-aza311-p-60011.html?osCsid=199faee2a8c0329ceb120e00cda97f6e or Fram CAK255 http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/1/1/580081-air-filter-by-fram-part-cak255.html some on ebay http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=2&_nkw=cak255&_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m283 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Get some vidio of him in his new home!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasSomT. Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I seem to remember in service, that the official part No. for a Fox mirror head, didn't fit a Fox mirror arm. 3/4ton Landrover mirrors fitted, If I remember correctly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handler 69 Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 Well after a gruelling hour long effort we have the carbie off. About an inch and a half of fuel lying in the bowl at the bottom..mechanic says well that explains why he stinks of fuel and ain't running right! :nut: I says well are we going to have it fixed by Friday night? I have a show on Saturday.......I haven't heard anyone laugh so much ( well except for my missus on our wedding night :cool2:) What causes this much fuel to be dumped down the carbie? Wonder what it is gunna cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 What causes this much fuel to be dumped down the carbie? Wonder what it is gunna cost! A leaking float (float full of fuel), float not adjusted properly or sticking needle valve.. This may help but your mechanic should know all this anyway.. http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/carb_troubleshooting.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handler 69 Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 I asked the mechanic if it would be fixed by Friday and he laughed at me, he knows something that I don't??:cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I asked the mechanic if it would be fixed by Friday and he laughed at me, he knows something that I don't??:cry: Maybe he knows he's about to give you a big bill & a load of BS.. should only take a couple of hours max to give the carb a clean & stick it back on.. even if the float needs repairing. I know that Fox quite well & it was running fine last time I saw it, I can't see there being any major problems with it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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