Google earth scammells and matadors

[Smithy]

Could well be this one as it was from the same area,

 

http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/large_image.php?ad=52849&cat=4

[antarmike]

The shed just to the right of the Austin Screamer looks a bit like a Matador on steroids!!!!

[gritineye]

I am going to dump a whole load of GE finds here,

 

Feel free to join in.

 

Regards rog8811

 

Please don't, as my Explorer can be seen on street view, thinking a bit deeper, I am not happy about this, I won't be joining in, undesirables use GE, mum's the word.....

Edited October 20, 2010 by gritineye

[rog8811]

Please don't, as my Explorer can be seen on street view

 

You do know you can apply to google to get a picture fuzzed, don't ask me how, but I have seen it done in a few places.

[rbrtcrowther]

My scammell is also clearly visable on gogle earth and street view and as the house is in the middle of nowhere and there are also many other pieces of old iron in the back yard that can be "lifted" the less that know the better. being in the middle of knowhere it's hard to find on google earth (i think) as the ba$*&d thieving irish travelers have liberated the contents of the diesel tank once already (ok it was mainly dirt and water:cool2: and save me a job) i would rather you didn't.:stop::tup::

Edited October 20, 2010 by rbrtcrowther
removel of an offensive word

[rog8811]

I will accept that I have been well and truly told, I will post no more

[rbrtcrowther]

It would have been a nice thead but unfortunatly there are people out there who will use this info for their own gain. Don't feel bad i'm not cross or upset just like my stuff where it is:thumbsup:

[Jack]

Don't worry Rog - good idea but as folks have said some gits out there use it for the wrong reason.

 

Personally I think Google street view should be outlawed - total infringement on our rights.

[gritineye]

I will accept that I have been well and truly told, I will post no more

 

Sorry to spoil your fun Rog, no offense taken, it's just that anyone Googling Scammell would have come upon led to this thread eventually.

[rog8811]

Sorry to spoil your fun Rog, no offense taken

 

No problem, I was aware enough of the possible problems to be rather vague about locations.

If concensus is don't post I won't post. :-)

[rbrtcrowther]

:idea:you could always keep looking and just give us an up to date tally of how many you find and in what condition without the pictures

[steveo578]

..... as the ba$*&rd pikey's have liberated the contents of the diesel tank once already

 

gentlemen, I've mentioned this before (Other Chatter Scum 8-6-10) and am asking you to play nice -I find the continued use of the term Pikey on the forum offensive -it is certainly unacceptable to anyone with Roma, gypsy or ITC ancestry- no-one would use the term N***er with regard to Afro-Carabean or African-American persons or Y*d or Ky** for Jewish persons -so please stop:stop: otherwise I will have to reconsider my association with the Forum-. I had hoped that the moderators would have given guidance on this after the previous matter(Other Chatter Scum 8-6-10.)

 

If you need a shorthand term for scrap metal thieves may I suggest TOTTER which is a term for a Steptoe and son style rag and bone man.

 

you could always keep looking and just give us an up to date tally of how many you find and in what condition without the pictures

 

As to the meat of the current debate -if the objection is to aerial photos I really don't think it is reasonable to ask for the information to be collated in any other form -that seems to be a somewhat nimby attitude.

 

AFAIK there have been no cases of thieving at the lower end of the criminal fraternity using GE -if there had been it would be all over the Daily Mail/Telegraph front page, -most of the criminals involved at best wouldn't get much beyond looking at porn or downloading illegal music. GE aerial photography lags far behind real time -at least 2years and longer in rural areas -probably street view is more up to date but only because it hasn't been around for so long.

 

Steve

[gritineye]

Point taken, post edited.

 

GE is very useful, I often use it.

 

However as I know farmers who have had new telehandlers and such stolen from their enclosed yards and taken across fields to be loaded in hidden quiet lanes a mile or more away, it seems entirely possible that the crime was planned using satellite images, as the perps where unlikely to have been that local, and maps just don't show the detail.

 

Rural machinery (and anything else left outside) theft has seen a huge rise in recent years, strangely coinciding with the coming of GE, it all just makes rural folk more nervous.

[steveo578]

gritineye

.....post edited.

 

Thanks mate greatly appreciated,

 

I take your point about rural thefts

 

Steve

[rbrtcrowther]

Post edited. Sorry but living so close to Holy Head ferry terminal 99'9 precent of the time it's vans with irish plates that are seen in the area when stuff goes missing. We have a very nice local scrap man who is of Irish origin and and even he has problems with said irish traveller.

Did i mention my brother in law is irish to?

[julezee001]

If you need a shorthand term for scrap metal thieves may I suggest TOTTER which is a term for a Steptoe and son style rag and bone man.

 

 

Personally I'm more than somewhat offended that a "Steptoe and Son" style rag and bone man, or totter should be considered the same as the people who skulk about in the middle of the night stealing drain covers, cars, and anything else of value that doesn't belong to them.

 

It certainly wasn't "Totters" who murdered a very good friend of mine 10 days ago!

 

Jules

[rbrtcrowther]

I know for a fact google eath has been used to aquire telehandelers and mini diggers it has also been used to look for lead on buildings and diesel storage tanks on building sites. Lets just say the person/ persons who supplyed this info are helping the police with their inquiries.

[Marmite!!]

gentlemen, I've mentioned this before (Other Chatter Scum 8-6-10) and am asking you to play nice -I find the continued use of the term Pikey on the forum offensive -it is certainly unacceptable to anyone with Roma, gypsy or ITC ancestry- no-one would use the term N***er with regard to Afro-Carabean or African-American persons or Y*d or Ky** for Jewish persons -so please stop:stop: otherwise I will have to reconsider my association with the Forum-. I had hoped that the moderators would have given guidance on this after the previous matter(Other Chatter Scum 8-6-10.)

 

 

After a staff meeting this afternoon we think the accepted term is "Travellers"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traveller

Edited October 21, 2010 by Marmite!!

[steveo578]

rbrtcrowther

We have a very nice local scrap man who is of Irish origin and and even he has problems with said irish traveller.

 

Thanks for the positive attitude/feedback I am aware that some ITC are a problem but it the same in any group and contrary to general perception it has little to do with poverty. Theives are thieves -no excuse -most of the metal thieves up here are not as sophisticated as those you mention- the last one we caught in the rural area was stupid enough to drive up the farm drive in a transit only to smash off his diff on one of the rocks sticking out of the drive -he should have realised why we parked at the bottom of drive- happy days:cool2:.

 

 

Did i mention my brother in law is irish to?

Don't worry about it my mothers family lived in Ireland for 200+ years until the Fenians ejected them in the late 19thC and we're not Travellers.

 

Steve

[montie]

Hi guys,

 

You might as well use the indiginous South African word assiated with this type of person/s (can't call them animals as it would be an insult to animals as they don't do such things!) You might also have come accross the word in your world as it is sometimes used in plays and films. I even think there is a film by this name! The word is "tsotsi", in singular form or tsotsi's if plural. It is applicable accross all races and tribes and is generally accepted everywhere.

Edited October 21, 2010 by montie
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[steveo578]

julezee001

Personally I'm more than somewhat offended that a "Steptoe and Son" style rag and bone man, or totter should be considered the same as the people who skulk about in the middle of the night stealing drain covers, cars, and anything else of value that doesn't belong to them.

 

It certainly wasn't "Totters" who murdered a very good friend of mine 10 days ago!

 

I thought long and hard before replying - While gritineye and rbrtcrowther and Montie got my point without the need for further explaination it looks like I have to revisit it again.

 

Ok Jules I withdraw my suggestion of using a word which is none racist as an alternative- I suggest that the following should be default- in the unlikely event we need to refer to Roma, Sinti, Irish Traveller Comunity or other Gypsy group the term Traveller (as suggested by the management), shoud be used, but without any attempt to use it as a group or racial slur-

 

When refering to criminal elements who steal

drain covers, cars, and anything else of value that doesn't belong to them.

then we call them for what they are- thieves, with no racial references-.

 

In short if we (the Forum) continue to accept P**y or other such termonologys as OK we are racist, we have a good rep. for fairness and being a friendly and honourable forum -mainly because of Jacks rules and our moderators policing -and in part because of this we continue to attact the "right" people.

 

While I sympathise -indeed empathise with your loss (because by the time you get to my age most people will have lost some-one dear or have some-one marred by criminality), it is not and cannot be acceptable to mark an entire community because of the behaviour of the few. Otherwise as a society we are in danger of repeating the wrongs that happened in Europe under the nazis - and as a final point the nazis murdered more gypsy by proportion than any other group. [rant over thank g'd]

 

I apologise in advance if I have upset anyone else

 

Steve

Edited October 21, 2010 by steveo578

[Marmite!!]

This thread has gone way off topic.. back on track please guys