fv1609 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Bearing and elevation of incoming fire???? Nope, not to do with bullets, mortars, rockets etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 To display position of incoming aircraft? I note azimuth, elevation, range and alarm on the console display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) To display position of incoming aircraft? I note azimuth, elevation, range and alarm on the console display. Well noted but nope not aircraft. Going off air for a few hours, the needle gun beckons! Edited November 15, 2009 by fv1609 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Well noted but nope not aircraft. Going off air for a few hours, the needle gun beckons! OK, second guess noting same titles on the display, it is for gun laying........perhaps :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 OK, second guess noting same titles on the display, it is for gun laying........perhaps :confused: Nope, nothing to do with bullets, shells, mortars, rockets, etc. or any form of ordnance. The purpose of this equipment is quite straight forward & is not some unheard of system or purpose that never saw the light of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 used for positioning a satellite dish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 used for positioning a satellite dish? Nope, this predates the satcom era. Much more mundane task (in case you are worried, nothing to do with latrines) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Is it for measuring the angle from a reference vector in a reference plane to a second vector in the same plane pointing towards something of interest??:sweat: ie height of a mountain, angle of sun etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Is it meteorolical, (display for AMETS radar or the like? Cloudbase height? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotBed Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Is it for measuring the angle from a reference vector in a reference plane to a second vector in the same plane pointing towards something of interest??:sweat: ie height of a mountain, angle of sun etc glad you know what your talking about :-D:-D:-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Is it for measuring the angle from a reference vector in a reference plane to a second vector in the same plane pointing towards something of interest??:sweat: ie height of a mountain, angle of sun etc No vectors were harmed in the operation of this equipment. Ingenious, but nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Is it meteorolical, (display for AMETS radar or the like? Cloudbase height? Another good idea, but nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Does it indicate a safe path? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Hmmmm. It is perimeter protection, it is locating something, it measures bearing and elevation, Image looks to be late Sixties/early seventies It doesn't track/indicate incoming fire or movement of any kind on the ground. Lines would appear to indicate getting close, closer, on for range and then (at the top) too damned close for comfort. Perhaps aircraft/drone tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Hmmmm. It is perimeter protection, it is locating something, it measures bearing and elevation, Image looks to be late Sixties/early seventiesYes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It doesn't track/indicate incoming fire Correct It doesn't track/indicate..... movement of any kind on the ground. Incorrect Lines would appear to indicate getting close, closer, on for range and then (at the top) too damned close for comfort. Correct, although nearest is at the bottom of the scale Perhaps aircraft/drone tracking.Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeileen Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 something to do with NBC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 something to do with NBC? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Quote:Originally Posted by ArtistsRifles Hmmmm. It is perimeter protection, it is locating something, it measures bearing and elevation, Image looks to be late Sixties/early seventies Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh goodie - got those bits right at least!!! Quote:Originally Posted by ArtistsRifles It doesn't track/indicate incoming fire Correct Quote:Originally Posted by ArtistsRifles It doesn't track/indicate..... movement of any kind on the ground. Incorrect Hmm - you did say it doesn't track movement sounds like footsteps, breathing , heart rate etc. You also told Lee it wasn't a heat or vibration sensor. It measures bearing AND elevation yet has nothing to do with projectiles. I can't see why elevation would be of interest to ground movements..... Quote:Originally Posted by ArtistsRifles Lines would appear to indicate getting close, closer, on for range and then (at the top) too damned close for comfort. Correct, although nearest is at the bottom of the scale Odd - usually a response system has a quicker indication the nearer something is... I assume the 3250 is the range the device is currently set at and that the range can vary from 2500 to 2500 - I assume metres?? Is the box unit all there is or is there some form of antenna or sensor array that plugs into it?? Quote:Originally Posted by ArtistsRifles Perhaps aircraft/drone tracking. Nope Only other thing that spring to mind that requires protection against, moves and climbs is a sniper??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 you did say it doesn't track movement sounds like footsteps, breathing , heart rate etc. Correct but I didn't say it didn't track movement. You also told Lee it wasn't a heat or vibration sensor. Correct It measures bearing AND elevation yet has nothing to do with projectiles. I can't see why elevation would be of interest to ground movements.....Well it might do in assessing the size of something, knowing how tall & wide it was. Odd - usually a response system has a quicker indication the nearer something is... I assume the 3250 is the range the device is currently set at and that the range can vary from 2500 to 2500 - I assume metres?? Yes it is in metres & the range can be adjusted in bands from 10,000m to 50m with a resolution of 25m. As you can see the greater distance is at the top & as someone pointed out earlier the position of the parrallel pair of lines corresponds to the reading on the counter at the top. is there some form of antenna or sensor array that plugs into it?? Yes Only other thing that spring to mind that requires protection against, moves and climbs is a sniper??? Yes, but why just a sniper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Is it for detecting /pinpointing/identifying anything approaching in fog, smoke or poor visibilty, tanks or such like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Is it for detecting /pinpointing/identifying anything approaching in fog, smoke or poor visibilty, tanks or such like? Yes! Any ideas what the mechanism might be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Doppler radar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Infra red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Doppler radar? Radar - yes, Doppler - probably. In the sense that it displays the distance of an object that has movement, but does not measure the speed with which it moves. That is done by moving the double lines over the intermittent lines which are contacts that have movement & the operator assessing the speed with which the line moves down the screen towards you. Lee was onto things with perimeter security & so nearly there when he mentioned "Doppler counter" but I tried to press him on what he meant by that. Because Doppler shift can demonstrated & even measured on audio frequencies not just microwaves. I didn't rule out Doppler as a principle but just indicated it was not for measuring velocity, unlike the hostile fire & mortar locating radars. As a 2kW X-band radar it will detect a whole range of items it is pointed at, there are algorims within the system that only evaluate & display something that has moved. I am not clear from the from the manufacturer's description whether this is actually based on Doppler or that the fact that the radar detects something that has changed in the split second from the previous scan. This system is not exclusive to movements away or towards you. It can detect a tree blowing in a wind or a man who is in a fixed position but identified as he moves to stand up. His movement geographically is determined by seperation where his dotted line is on the display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Infra red? Good idea but nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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