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These are all great photos so thanks for sharing them. The lorry with the RN on the side looks like a Seabrook. Not seen a picture of one outside the UK before.

Tim

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Found 3 more P&M pictures, and just scanned them, not much happening here!

 

Cheers,

 

Lex

 

Hi Lex,

 

I posted this thread in the Pre WW2 Vehicles subforum a couple of days ago. Nothing happened there as well... So I'll also post it on this Motorcycle subforum, in the hope that somebody will react here...

 

Hello,

 

I own two WW2 Royal Enfield motorcycles, and as such I became quite interested in the WW2 history. In a way to combine these two interests, I started to research the war time and early post war Royal Enfield history. This research job also spread to the WW1 period.

 

With the help of many knowledgeable friends I have discovered a lot of interesting information. I have bundled all these facts in a Report. The WW1 part of my Report can be found here:

 

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/38004199/The%20RE-WD%20models%20report%20part%201%20the%20Great%20War.pdf

 

If anybody on this forum would have anything to add (pictures, facts, ...), please let me know!

 

Jan

 

Sorry Lex, haven't got any P&M pictures that you haven't seen yet... :o) But I hope that my input will inspire more people to post something here.

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Ah, there we go! :o)

 

Some more:

 

Lex, I did find a "new" P&M picture:

 

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Interesting comparison:

 

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Another Triumph:

 

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A privately owned outfit (does anybody recognise which one?):

 

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And a New Hudson catalogue:

 

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Jan

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A very interesting and informed report that you wrote on Enfield. The American Expeditionary Force also made use of a great deal of British trucks such as AEC, Dennis and Foden as well as employing US built trucks which had been supplied to the British such as Peerless and FWD.

Good read.

 

Tim

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A very interesting and informed report that you wrote on Enfield.

 

And you haven't seen the other parts of my Report yet! :o)

 

A much appreciated compliment from one of the WW1 specialists! Thanks! And thanks for the additional information!

 

Regards,

Jan

 

PS: I read your rebuild blogs with great interest. They have often inspired me on how to overcome certain engineering difficulties. Keep up the good work!

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Ah Jan, I had seen it before, but it's even better now!!! good to see some action here, have many more stuff to scan, will do after Beltring, leaving tomorrowmorning, at O'dark, beddybeddybeyes for now!

 

Tim, also thanks for joining in, and also gritineye, great pics!!!

 

Cheers,

 

Lex

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Great to see so many old WWI pics. Here is a shot of our 1917 Indian. Which has WWII Civil Defence Warden plates on it at present, but may be painted WWI Indian Kahki when i restore her.

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It is generally thought that Nortons, who were a small factory at the time, did not supply any WD contracts, although a few Imperial Russian Models did make it there before the order was cancelled.

 

However, this photograph dated March 1916 implies that some at least were being used for the war effort. It is captioned as Norton Watsonian Motorycle Ambulance.

 

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Hi all, just remembered there's a nice Italian book out about WWI bikes, all black & white pictures, divided by make, so US, Brit, French, German and Italian bikes. also with English and German text.

 

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Can be ordered here: http://www.libreriazanetti.it/zanetti_editore/varia/varia_3.htm#

 

Some really good pictures in it, here a scan as an appetizer.

 

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Indian crashes frontally on a Fiat Lorry.

 

Cheers,

 

Lex

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Hi,

 

Just found some nice pictures of Royal Enfield WW1 motorcycles.

 

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The story is :

 

In previous years, Royal Enfield had fitted a Maxim machinegun to one of its sidecar combos for publicity purposes. In a memorable snafu, the machinegun (which was not operational) was seized by customs on its way to a show in Ireland early in 1914, where there were restrictions on the importations of guns due to the political unrests there. At the outbreak of the war the machinegun-enabled combo was rushed to the Ministry of Munitions and an order for 6hp's with strengthened chassis was received. Vickers guns were mounted on the sidecar chassis and they could be swivelled in any direction, forward, backward, sideways, even used as anti-aircraft gun. A padded seat and backrest were provided for the machinegun operator. Another model was fitted with a stretcher to carry wounded.

 

The info and pictures came from this website :

 

http://myroyalenfields.blogspot.be/2009/12/1915.html

 

Kind regards,

Glenn

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Hi Jan,

 

Thank you for the wonderful info .... I will start reading it as soon as possible ! :cheesy:

 

BTW i just came across these pictures :

 

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Resource : http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3883&sid=5dcd30397b99d9efe878814c0a0267ce

 

I think it is the same sidecar as in the other pictures.

 

Greetings - Groetjes,

Glenn

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My pleasure Glenn!

 

By the way, the outfit above is one of the few surviving MMGS Clyno combinations.

 

Jan

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The belts on the Triumph forks was supposed to stop the forks going forward if the spring broke but it did not work.

The bike with zu on the tank looks very much like a Triumph, Possibly he put a name on the bike himself like they did with tanks and wagons.

Very good unusual photos thank you.

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