wally dugan

As far as l know they were the same

IT's a TILLY Austin ?

The box is still filling gaps in AESP's now a lot are complete there are a number of CES that belong to vehicles with there ERM numbers on the covers some with ASH CHURCH discrepancy forms attached

The new box keeps on giving items of ROYAL ENGINEERS interest and has helped to fill gaps in vehicle documents so now some are complete

On the subject of painting canadian wartime vehicles this from volume one Design records CDMV WW2

That looks like the VOLVO 4ton L48546

The role of the equipment used by mainly the Royal ENGINEERS is often over looked so some time ago l asked a retired friend to help find any thing to do with this subject and he has done so l did collect anything to do with military railways but it's not what l am really interested in my friend tubby robins [ MAJOR ] was the expert on this subject with my old boss David Ronald [ COLONEL ]

It's a while but the collecting has not stopped a large amount of documents have arrived containing CES's HANDBOOKS for all manner of vehicles just a few

Just seen this the collecting information on AAW's is a work in progress there were several hundred of these ranging from large private companies to small workshops these where all over britian and 1n 1945 employed over twenty thousand civilian workers and a the moment have less than one third listed . At the moment B6 is not a confirmed one either location or who ran it but l have a large pile of documents still to sift through it's only lately that l found out there was one located ten miles from were l grew up which council house's were built on and up till 1948 it was still MOS owned

where some engines were reconditioned by the original manufacturers they were painted in the original colour the morris comercial in the national army museum has a recon engine and is painted in the green used by them

There are a number of photographs of the GOERS 8/10/AND fifteen ton prototype's in FRED CRIMSONS book us military wheeled vehicles if that helps

The last of the contract 6/v/6443 were delivered in 1954/55 numbers ran 00 BK 01 TO 37 BK 00

Its a long time ago since l had to do with the question of patents but from what i recall there are/were two parts to the registration the first is to check that there is no infringement of any other registered patents and then the final registration how this is displayed l do not recall. l may have some of the earlier contracts but only from 1949 There is a list some where of earlier contacts but cannot at the moment put my hands on it which should cover 1938 to 1945. l only got home at two o clock this morning after travelling for eighteen hours

It is normal to register a patent before production to avoid problems in the future 69 BN 70 is from contract 6/v/13891 which starts 1954

it's a tracked dolly used to recover aircraft

they will find other ways to recoup the loss

Numbers 25 AGB 81 to 25 AG 85 are listed as THORNEYCROFT TFB/B80 DRIVER TRAINING TRUCK?

Built 1942 Wartime number Z 49O4605 you will be very lucky to find anything as to it's army service

AUSTIN K9 numbers 29 BG 47 to 79 BG 56 were all cargo 79 BG 57 to 81 BG 96 wireless repair 81 BG 97 to 87 BG 46 MIXED ambulance and water tanker 87 BG 47 to 99 BG 46 FFW so yours is a GS /CARGO

l have found my list of ROYAL NAVY VRN's there where three listed 47 RN 40/44/ 56 which was dated 1991

another RN ONE 47 RN 40/5485 FLEET AIR ARM OI AY 51 TO 01 AY 53 MY MISTAKE there are lot's of three ton 4x4 s fire tenders listed but l have no idea if there DP 1's or what

SAM sorry about RLC but this has happened before the cards seem to have gone a stray between beverley and RLC the cards where all copied as part of the requirement for registration as a full museum in case of loss in fire or flood and the details recorded and placed on a master list which was held off site for safe keeping

Having a quick look through the files first it is SUN ENGINEERING FELTHAM secondly the PD is not a p it appears quite clearly written else were as TRUCK FIRE FIGHTING FD FOAM Thorneycroft . Also TENDER FIRE CRASH Thorneycroft sent to HMS HERON YEOVILTON 47 RN 44 /6781 this the first fire engine with a RN NUMBER. As l said l know nothing about fire engines but the more l look the more l am puzzled just checked its the one on page 90 of the FVRDE 1962 CATALOGUE

MARK a question for you in amongst some files there are listed THORNEYCROFT 4X4 fire tenders with the suffix PD not DP some have army registration numbers some sent to SUN ENGINEERING ?