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A friend of mine has one of those nylon carriers. I’ve never seen the e-tool that goes with it before.

Thanks everyone. Interesting to give it a bit of history.

Unfortunately it has a significant amount of rust - especially to the interior. I’m currently thinking I may put some Oxalic acid in the interior and see to what extent it removes the rust but not the surviving paint. If it works well, I may dip the whole thing.

Hi,

I’ve just acquired this incomplete MkII HSAT and I am currently mulling over how far to restore it. I wonder if anyone could help with the following questions:

- Unlike a 1955 dated example in my collection, there are no visible date / maker marks stamped on the shell. (Assuming they’re not concealed by rust) Does that mean it *could* be of wartime manufacture?

- Does anyone have any thoughts on what the markings stamped on the liner ring mean?

- Likewise, the painted markings on the front?

- What was the correct paint colour / texture of a WWII manufactured MkII HSAT? (I believe the colour became more green postwar)

Thanks,

Mark

Bump. Still looking for one of these or a modern equivalent. 

Thanks.

These set displays may help:

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1958/set.html

Yes. Normal and Large.

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1958/components/component_belts.html

Thank you. If you could have a look that would be brilliant.

I have a Sherman track link connector and wedge, but I lack the nut that connects them together. (Part number 503330 apparently) Does anyone have a spare they can sell me? It’s for display, so other than having functional threads, condition isn’t very important.

Or Plan B: is there a modern nut that would fit?

Thanks.

Danke. That’s an interesting picture. The BW Fallschirmjager seem to have used a variety of M38 style helmets before they settled on the M1 type FJ helmet.

My one is definitely dark blue and not olive. Dimensionally it is the same as a GSG9 helmet, but has recessed M38 style liner attachment bolt holes.

In the end I went for RAL 7016, although not for the helmet pictured.

I collect webbing and have sets of trials, olive green and DPM PLCE. However, whilst it closely resembles the medical kit carrier it seems to have some constructional differences and I don’t know what it is. You could try asking on the World Wide Web Collectors forum on Facebook.

Interesting to see that there’s now sufficient demand to justify manufacturing reproductions. I note they’re also doing an early style DPM para smock.

https://www.whatpriceglory.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?Search=Yes&sppp=12&page=1&Keyword=Dpm&category=ALL&highprice=0&lowprice=0&allwords=Dpm&exact=&atleast=&without=&cprice=&searchfields=

Sad news. I’ve bought many things from them over the years. Somewhere stashed away I have a collection of their old catalogues going back to the late 1980’s. They cover the ‘golden age’ of deact collecting in the UK and the choice and prices compared to now would make you weep.

Now listed on the Hop Farm website:

https://thehopfarm.co.uk/events/the-war-peace-revival

Great picture. Thank you for sharing.

Would I like to have that wooden furniture SLR in my collection...

Revisiting the subject of the DPM cap... had a stroke of luck today at the Chatham militaria fair and picked up this excellent condition example for a mere fiver. Better still it’s an extra large 7 7/8 size and an early one with the brown lining and an early style DPM print. It just needs a very gentle wash and little reshaping.

WWI 1914 dated US Navy 3 Inch 50-Caliber cartridge case. Made by Union Metallic Cartridge Company. Nice original patinated and unpolished condition. 60cm long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-inch/50-caliber_gun

£50 including UK courier delivery.

Saracen Exports do deactivated shotguns from £130.

Of interest to owners of Section 58 obsolete calibre firearms. They are proposing to remove some calibres from the list and add others. Those removed will require an FAC:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-closes-antique-firearms-loopholes-to-protect-public?fbclid=IwAR0T6CneOg-PnnqdrOEcvFoN92i-skh56xBi1t68k0NTXi2QsIXcCGV3X6U

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/933597/Govt_Response_09-11-2020.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1IU3HsC4ebPUuDB7gQONpGqdmvj_vgn7vgBM7hP_1Ht8ojFWI09jeh3h0

6 minutes ago, Mk3iain said:

Very suspicious indeed !

A firearms dealer:

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/paul-panagi-2853159b

https://www.enfieldguns.com/

8 hours ago, Chris Hall said:Does anyone know if now the UK are leaving the EU, we can sell old spec deacs? I heard that the initial thought was that we could but then we couldn’t but I’ve seen lots for sale openly so I really don’t know. It’s another stupid rule to try and follow.

The law concerned was modified last year by an SI so that it changed from ‘in the EU’ to ‘in the UK’. The UK left the EU in January and that is the current law.

However, in the real world it is a bit of a dead letter as regards private sales and is being widely ignored. I also don’t know whether it has been tested in court: as it stands, someone could spend six months in prison because they had sold an irreversibly gun because it had been irreversibly deactivated in the wrong irreversible way.

Interesting article that was published last December:

https://brudenellchambers.com/2019/12/23/new-deactivation-specifications-2/

43 minutes ago, andym said:

My deac SMG has a KR prefix and a smooth finish.

I believe KR is the pre-1971 commercial serial number prefix. Afterwards it was S.

32 minutes ago, 43rdrecce said:

Not sure about the paint though. The crackle paint was originally on early British Sterlings too. It was removed and replaced with Suncorite in the course of their service life on most if not all weapons.

My understanding is that the British military guns always had the smooth Suncorite over phosphate finish. However, some commercial spare parts with the crackle finish (e.g. end caps) were later on obtained by the MoD from Sterling and ended up on military guns.

9 minutes ago, 43rdrecce said:

Are ex British guns few and far between? 

I believe almost all of them were scrapped sadly.

This also explains why ex-British military Sterling SMGs are almost non-existent on the UK market. The ones you see for sale are commercial guns sold abroad in the past which have different markings and a different paint finish.