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    Welcome aboard, Jim. Are you looking for anything in particular, or just something green?
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Absolutely, have ticked off quite a few big jobs recently, well pleased with the progress
  3. Right,here we go again, restoration number two!! I was at a show a while back with the Militant Timber Tractor, and was asked,“Now you have finished this restoration, will you do another?” No chance says I, one is enough!! But then……well..?? I was reading the December Classic Truck Mag and spotted a for sale advert. Mk1 Militant with Atlas crane located in Kent. As I know these are a sought after beast, I thought I would have a look,take as few photos and post a thing on here for those who maybe interested. As it goes the motor in question is well shot. Not only has it had a hard life in the timber trade, it has been welland truly butchered, (Engine changed for the wrong one, knackered cab) and thoroughly beaten to death. That said,the Atlas crane is good, and it is still for sale if anyone wants it. To get to have a look at it, I had to walk past this barn. You know the feeling you get when the hairs stand up on the back of your neck,shivers down the spine etc. I got the whole works!! Clocked the Tanker straight away. ‘kin’el didn’t think any would still exist but I’m staring at one in this barn!! So I’m trying to look at the Atlas and seem interested, but I’m thinking TANKER!! Anyhow,I managed to discuss the Atlas with it’s seller, declined to make him an offerand walked back past the barn. The conversation went like this: “What’s the Tanker?” Trying to sound nonchalant, but the brain is screeming TANKER!! “Oh,That’s a Militant too” “Is it for sale?” (TANKER!! Deep Breathing) “Could be, want to make me an offer” “Does it Run?” (TANKER!! Sweating a bit) “It did when we parked it up 20 odd years ago” “Is that hoses I can see in that open pod?” (TANKER!! Panting now) "Yes, it is complete, straight from the Army sales” Anybody got a tissue? Story goes like this. He used to run buy ex Military stuff to export to Kenya and South Africa, but the company he exported to went bust, and he was left with several motors and no contract, so they got parked in this barn. Late eighties/early nineties, been there ever since. The tanker is straight out of the auctions, completely unmolested and to all intents and purposes ready to roll. Did think about it for a couple of days, and obviously had to get the vote of confidence from Der Oberfurher (Wife) which wasn’t easy but we are now full steam ahead. First move is to clear the crap that has been stacked up around it. This has allowed a full inspection of the potential. Biggest issue is the Mercedes that is now sitting on the radiator. It wasn’t actually touching it at first, but disturbing everything else allowed it to slip downfrom it’s perch and gently rest on the top of the rad cap. Everything seems to be well seized, took a good bit of fiddling just to get the drivers door open, but generous applications of WD40 on the handle finally got it moving and we were in. Cab is all there as described, but the first bit that grabs your attention is the steering wheel which has definitely seen better days. Not only that, it is the wrong type anyway. Good for a later Militant, but the early ones had a solid iron wheel, so that’s the first requirement. Any one got a steering wheel that is better than this?? Next move is to see if it will actually run. It still has the 4 six volt batteries it would have had while inservice, and after all this time they are probably a bit flat. Engine oil seems good, but someone has syphoned out the diesel tank. So tomorrows job, fresh batteries, fresh juice and see what happens. My bet is that being an old AEC it will do half a turn on the starter and fire into the gentle tickover that you would expect. I’ll let you know.
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Well, this weekend happened and I'm pleased to say we nailed it. Took 2 trips, yesterday, with the car delivering all the bits. Bit too much weight carrying both hubs and drums together. Early start this morning and cracked on, took all day but got the right result. Back plates and rear dirt seal first, and build from there. Son Stuart assisting, took a hub each and on we go Shoes next, then hub and drum Had a couple of minor issues, couple of blocked grease nipples, and one pair of shoes that just would not behave, but otherwise things went fairly well. Last job, wheels back on. We've still got to clean the rims, so they will have to come off again later. Haven't fitted the brake chambers or any of the linkage yet, either. I'm leaving them off for now to allow more room for chassis cleaning first. Just one downside! Having spent most of the day bent over in this sort of position, and lifting heavy drums and hubs, the old spine is protesting violently this evening. Don't know about "the joy of movement" the joy of sitting still is pretty good just now, along with some "medicine" to numb the pain.
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Did I say that? OK, well, maybe next weekend then!! Didn't get much done at all last week, something else always seemed to get in the way. Still, managed to get stuck into it yesterday and today. All four hubs cleaned and painted, ready to refit. Moved on to sorting out the 2 leaking hub seals. Militants don't have a seal as such, in the sense of a rubber ring affair, they have what is called a packless gland. A metal bellows that uses spring pressure to form a metal to metal seal. Any damage or scratches to the 2 mating surfaces and hub oil just pours out. Packless gland on the right, with the brass mating face upwards. Hub plate, (the other half of the seal) on the left. Spot the damage at 12 o'clock on the hub plate. Having lashed out £50 odd on 2 new glands, I was a bit peeved to say the least when I found this. A new gland isn't going to help that. Part of the cleaning process, is to polish the mating surfaces with fine wet and dry, so nothing to lose but see if it will polish out. Started with 180 grit and worked up Gland getting the works, using a bit of plywood as a flat surface Finished with 1200, and finally cornflakes packet and brasso Rather pleased with the result on the hub plate. Hopefully it will do the job. Still got a whole load of nuts, bolts, clips and things to clean up before actually fitting, but otherwise we are ready to go, next weekend?
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    Painting, Spraying or Brushing

    A general discussion at the bar the other night, which is better? Brushing or Spraying. I wondered what forum members preferred. For myself I use a mixture of both depending on what is being painted Tankers engine cover here, needs that mirror like finish. So max effort in the prep, spraying all the way, flatting between coats and so on. Bits of the spare wheel carrier here, big lumps of iron, roughly welded together, and now quite heavily pock marked by rust to boot. The overall finish will never be anywhere near as smooth and shiny as the engine cover, and wouldn't look right if it was, anyway. For me brushing is by far the best option, on this. You can really scrub the paint into the corners and pock marks, ensuring good covering for rust protection for the future. The final DBG gloss coat will be sprayed, mainly because I've been using 2 pack and brushing that just makes a mess. But the next coat of primer will most likely be brushed like the red oxide. So do other members have a preference/opinion?
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    After the stripping the brakes, next up, the hubs. 2 of which have been leaking badly, and a pair of NOS gland seals have already been picked up from an AEC supplier on fleebay. End cover comes off to reveal a very large four and a half inch A/F nut (that's 115mm for you modern types) holding it all together. Not exactly Snap-on! Still haven't got round to buying a proper socket, yet. Made this for the Timber Tractor years ago, and it works so don't fix what ain't broke. You just beat it with a sledge hammer. Stripped out and wrapped up to protect axle ends, while the rest gets the treatment at home Hung each one on a wire to keep all the spacers in order All the old oil and muck has now been washed off, bearings and spacers are all stacked awaiting polishing, hubs awaiting de-rust and respray. Hopefully that will happen during the evenings this week ready for refit next weekend
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    You can power it down, by engaging reverse gear instead of first, but you are straining against the brake which probably doesn't do it too much good. So long as there is some weight on the hook, like when lowering the jib, carefully releasing the brake is the way to go.
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Sorry about the unavailability, I didn't upload it properly. Bit of a technophobe sometimes
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    A short while back we fitted the top half of the cab back on. Took about 4 hours in all, and the whole lot got shot on video. It's taken a while but I've managed to edit out all the standing around, arm waving and shouting at each other and got it down to 15 min of action. Hopefully this is the link to the youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mit4QEZtc3I
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Absolutely! It's the old cart before the horse thing, and has been for the past year. Spare wheel came off to get to the back of the cab in the first place. Back of the cab needed to be done before the top half of the cab went back on, and so on. No point in painting just the back of the cab, better to do the whole thing at the same time, hence the radiator and oil cooler sorting so it can all get top coat at once. There is a sort of a plan, honestly!
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    Breakdown cover recommendations

    I use a gang called Autohome, costs £110 per year for my Militant. Thankfully I've never had to call them out, but I know a couple of people that have, and they appear to be very good. When I signed up with them, there were very specific questions about the type of vehicle, size and weight etc, including any regularly towed trailers. Worth giving them a call for a price. 0800 371280
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Fortunately the good wife is quite supportive and like everyone else is looking forward to that first run out video. Hopefully that is not too far off now, things are coming together quite well. So long as we don't get too many bad weather days in this and next month, another six weeks or so and we'll be on it.
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Happy New Year to all our readers, hope 2019 will be good to you. Time to catch up with the Christmas tankering. Brake linkage is all finished, cleaned, freed, repaired as necessary and then given the repaint treatment. Ready to fit back on when the time comes. Moved on to the spare wheel carrier bits that have been lounging behind the shed since the cab top moved out. Most of it started like this. Complete, just badly corroded and in need of cleaning and repainting. Several hours of wire brush in the grinder, then paint shop washing line and we get to this Brake drums got a coat of green at the same time. More bits ready to go back on. Quick question for those with significant others. Could you get away with putting truck parts on the posh oak dining table? Answer, only nice clean ones, and after asking very nicely. Cupola hip pads being retrimmed Had to borrow her sewing machine too! There may be a substantial price to be paid for this, later. Anyway, had some cloth left over from the seat recovering, so thought I'd have a go at retrimming the Hip Pads. Original ones looked like this, but were so rotten...…... They just fell apart like this. So, bit of guesswork with the calculations, bit of string as a compass to draw the curves, cut out and sew together. First attempt went into the bin, but a few adjustments and the mark 2 version looks quite tidy. First one off the press, and 2 more to do. I think they'll do nicely
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    Smith's LT11 all terrain crane

    I was about to say the Royal Engineers had them too, but looking at my photo, the Engineers version is much bigger. Seen here with a Hydra Husky, Coles 315 and a cherry picker Cab might be the same, but crane half is a different story. I couldn't tell you anything about them, never worked on them. I would think the Clayton air brake system, would likely be similar to the Militant, and should be fairly easily repaired
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    Welcome aboard, Rich. Look forward to hearing more about this crane of yours
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Successful couple of days Every thing stripped down, all linkage joints undone and freed off. Then cleaned and stacked ready for painting. Drums have a coat of hammerite already. Rest will get done one evening during the week Did have a close call with the wire wheel at one point, it had me glove off
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    AEC Militant MKI Update

    Which EMER are you reading? Is that the Tech Manual that was on fleebay a few weeks back? If your front screens need new edge seals, I've just got a near enough equivalent for the Tanker from seals direct (www. etc) Their part number OWS778
  19. They look like standard bus and coach emergency door handle fittings. You should be able to find that sort of thing at any bus breakers. You could even try your local bus company, most will have an old scrapper at the bottom of the yard that is being stripped, might only cost you a donation to their tea fund Try Trevor Wigley (Barnsley) 01226 723147 (Biggest Bus Breakers in the UK) If you want new, try Carlyle Bus Parts 0121 524 1200 Or PSV Transport Systems 01992 479950
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    AEC Matador brake diaphragms

    Give this guy a call, he is an absolute master of sourcing and supplying AEC bits. Martyn Callaghan 07765 404403 Or Email: martyncallaghanaec@gmail.com
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Day 2 of the great brake strip down. Bit of a fight to the death with most of the linkage, it's all pretty much seized solid. General spraying of WD 40 all over and careful use of a Mapp Gas blow lamp. I say careful, I'm very mindful that I'm underneath a fuel tanker. I'm sure 'elf & safety would have forty fits about it, but it's been the only way to get some of it apart. Anyway good result on the day, all linkage and back plates removed. Hubs look like this now Everything back home now for reconditioning. Wife's car has been exiled for the foreseeable, at least until I can get some semblance of order going on. As you can see I managed to get the rear rods undone, but the front half of the linkage had to come out in one bit, couldn't crack any of it off. That's the park brake rod that is still attached to the right hand brake chamber. First patient please. Off side rear actuating arm. This was as far as I got trying to get the pin out while it was still on the motor. Half an hour later and a vast improvement. Clevis bolt released, ball joint inside cleaned up, then whole thing wire brushed over ready for a coat of primer. Neighbours are going to love me tomorrow and Saturday, the grinder will be going all day. Unlucky.
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Three days off work, finishing up this years holiday entitlement, Wife at work though, so 3 days solid Tankering! Who could want more. First job, check out the new windows for leaks, after the recent rain. They're all nice and dry. Cupola leaks badly though, despite the new plastic lid, so need to check that out. Repaired oil cooler was fitted, but batteries were too flat to start up and test, so that returns to the "to do" list. Rear brakes time. Jack up and remove wheels. At this point I get slated for poor quality jacking blocks, but they are good timber and better than crunchy concrete blocks I used on the front axle. She's quite stable on them too, even when swinging a big bar to get the wheel nuts undone. The 1500 tyres are a size bigger than the Timber Tractors 1400's and they are a surprising amount heavier to drag about. The secret is balance, don't let them fall over, and if one does decide to wander off on it's own, just get out of it's way til it stops. These two should be safe enough up against the fence Drums and shoes off next. Rear axle ones came off nicely, even the split pins that hold the shoes on came out easily. Middle axle proved a bit more of a challenge, both sides were stuck tight. Off side held on by seized linkage, and Near side by both linkage and tight "S" cam. I was planning to leave the linkage and brake chambers until tomorrow, but had to undo some of it today to release the shoes. Needless to say the small bit I did do required lots of penetrating fluid and a good deal of local heat. Finally all drums and shoes off. 40 Squillion spiders now seeking alternative accommodation. Back plates will come off tomorrow, but the hubs will have to wait a bit as I will run out of space in the home workshop. Queued up for transport home. You can see here 2 of the drums are well rusted, which you would expect after so long parked up, but the other 2 are well oiled, and so are the shoes. A pair of hub seals now required as well. Fortunately I know a supplier of NOS items, so no problem there. Only 2 drums had anti-squeal bands on them, which have fell off anyway. The other 2 show no evidence of ever having them, so it will be interesting to see if they are noisy once we get on the road. Loads of cleaning and painting to be getting on with now, when the weather gets too bad to be out this month. Good news is, forecast for this area tomorrow is dry so look out for the fun and games getting a seized linkage frame out from between the axles.
  23. After a bit of advice from anyone who knows better than I. I've got a small issue with the cast aluminium radiator surround on the old Tanker. It's had a bit of a dink on the off side that I would like to straighten out Depending on which photo you look at is how bad it looks, but in the flesh and up close it looks awful, and the centre grill wont sit flat like it should. Now if it was made of steel you would simply whack it back into shape with a suitable hammer and possibly a bit of heat. But this is cast aluminium and I'm not sure how to treat it. I'm assuming if I give it a fourpenny one with a big hammer bits will just break off. Anybody got any experience of such stuff?
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    Mk1 Militant Tanker

    Couple of pics of repaired oil cooler. Coat of fresh paint makes a world of difference too You can see the extra width on the repaired pipe.
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    Straightening out bend in cast alluminium

    Many thanks for the advice guys, I think I will have a go at the warming and straightening with clamps first. Photos to follow as it progresses