rambo1969

5 hours ago, Christian F. said:

...on that subject, I saw this somewhere.....

 

TBH, it was going downhill when he run the show.

On 7/28/2022 at 12:38 PM, Jack said:

Think they are deluded if they think 2023 will happen. They have lost all support and respect and folks have found better shows to go to now. 

You will still get the die hard supporters who will go.

On 7/29/2022 at 11:30 AM, earlymb said:

By the MV crowd, yes... but I think they're trying to turn it into a general 'vintage' show, which might appeal to a broader public which means more visitors etc. so they don't mind losing 80% of the green participants I guess?

I said this a few years ago, and people told me I was mad!
They changed the name a few years back-'the greatest gathering of vintage living' was the sub title, and that was the clue.

The new owner would much rather charge the public £250 for the week with a caravan than have mv's paying £75.

'Maybe a collaboration including MVT & IMPS.'

That would cause no end of grief for sure..................

One look at the w+p homepage tells you all you need to know, and what I said a few years back-
it's main ambition seems to be to become a festival/vintage show.
 

The fact that only certain people can comment on FB(the die hard supporters) and no comments at all on Twitter shows you all you need to know.

Must admit i'm tempted to go as a day visitor just to see what it's like.

I did say a few years ago that the show was heading this way.
IMO, the current owner has looked at what mv's paid, and thought to himself 'I could get a caravan in that spot and charge 4 times the price'.
What he wants is a ww2 themed retro festival, with a few select mv's and loads of public campers.

Still plenty on FB defending the price hike though.

£125 for 1 mv with camping!!
The owners mad........ffs.
With the way prices are going up, he is taking the p*ss big time.

5 hours ago, .303fan said:

the reality of not having a venue? otherwise it still be on.

How though?
 

21 minutes ago, sirhc said:

They don’t need to, the terms and conditions says no refunds.

If they don't issue refunds, I reckon that could be the final nail in the coffin for w+p.

3 hours ago, andym said:

Agreed, but as an organiser of another military show, common feedback from the public is "too many Land Rovers".

Andy

The public think any 4x4 is a 'jeep'.
As a long term landy owner, I feel limiting landy numbers is snobbish.
The land rover is the most used MV all over the world, therefor, there will be more in private hands.
There is room for all of us in this hobby.

8 hours ago, Anchor said:

Just to let everyone know, ANCHOR SUPPLIES LTD will not be attending the war and peace show in 2020 

Why not?

I said last year that this would happen, and people thought I was mad!
IMO, the new owner wants to change the show to a ww2 festival type of thing and get more public campers in.

JLR have gone for what will make them money, and I agree with them.

Best show I go to.

10 hours ago, fv1609 said:

Yes £10 each not sure what the charge was for, perhaps it was for toilets?

And so they should.
If mv owners have to pay, then so should the re enactors.

For the simple reason that a lot of the MV people come from abroad and have other things to do on monday, and so sunday's visitors were greeted by a lot of empty pitches and vehicles moving out. That's why a few years ago it has been decided to start & end the show a day earlier.


But it has made no difference what so ever, people still pull out early.

I had a great week, but,

Was the quietest I have ever known w+p, even the re enactors field had spaces!
Toilets really need to be cleaned twice a day- by midday they were awful.
Severe lack of traders, was told the prices had been put up.

The living history that was there was good.

I cannot understand why the new owner does not open to the public on the sunday-it would give him more chance to take gate money if the sat is a washout.

2 of my mates got there today, people had already roped off spaces!
Outer monktons is now public camping, which will upset a few!

11 hours ago, Grasshopper said:

Being a parent I take a caravan as W&P now coincides with summer holidays. If it's wet or too hot my child will happily do stuff in the caravan without me being pestered all day! Sorry if it spoils the atmosphere, but it makes things more bearable than if I were spending a week in a tent with the same child...

Must admit, I have no problems with caravans/civvie tents, but should all be in a seperate area, they did this at capel and it worked well.

8 hours ago, ferretfixer said:

Rambo. JFYI the Entry price also allows YOU to Inspect & use the toilet facilities.

As many times as you wish Sir!...….. 😁

Good idea!
And if they are no good, I can charge w+p £250!😀

Would love to know they will enforce it!

I think the MV scene is still busy, just in different ways.
Facebook has taken alot of the net traffic from forums.
I started doing a few steam shows last year instead of MV shows, tbh, ive seen nearly every mv there is and steam shows make a nice change.
W+P excitement?, I know alot of people have just become fed up with the way we are treated by the people who run W+P,  Ive done 24 out of the last 25 W+P's, and overall have enjoyed them, but as many on here know it's the bloody toilets that spoil it for me.
I'm doing a week at W+P this year, have done for the last 20 odd yrs, am I excited about it?, not as much as I used to be, for me I treat it as a weeks holiday, but find the GDSF far better for a week.

New owner of W+P should talk to the owner of the great dorset steam fair.

Toilets and showers are easily solvable, just need someone who WANTS to solve it.

I honestly think the new owner really does not care.

Yes it jolly well did, it wasn't at Folkestone for a start, plenty of winge free people had a whole lot of fun, tracked stuff drove around in the evening, there was a tank drag race, the Jive Aces played a lot, there was no helicopter, Spitfires appeared at random times presumably just passing by and some brave bloke took on all the problems of putting a show on and put his money where his mouth is. Good enough for me!

Agree.

Living history was excellent, imo.