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  1. After succeeding in getting my Milly through its first MOT here are my lessons learnt from the experience. Firstly it was not as bad as I was expecting it could be. Trying to get clarity from various agencies was a battle until I finally got talking to the right people at DVSA, that's the tech folk at HGV tech.( HGVTech@dvsa.gov.uk ) They are approachable and helpful. Filling in the VTG1 (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/671493/hgv-first-test-application-form-vtg1.pd ) was easy enough, there is only so much info available. I did not have all the axle weights and the truck does not have a chassis plate with this info, the manual states front axle weight and rear bogie only. So I included some pages of data from the manual with dimensional drawings , that was accepted. I nominated my nearest ATF on the form but did not book a test yet. The application was accepted and an upfront payment of £113 made. This was all done online. DVSA now have a technical record of the vehicle and use this instead of plating. I called the ATF to book a test and had to pay the test fee again plus the lane fee, a total of £179, ATFs are used to dealing direct and are not used to fees being pre paid. In my case there was a problem with the rear bogie dif lock and the brake test could not be progressed so the whole test was abandoned, this means another full test at the full fee of £179. Be warned! Brake performance was low with the mid axle poor, so it failed first full test, also the headlights had European lenses. I had to give the brakes a good going over and took some sand out the mid axle actuators also changing the diaphragms. Re test was £73. I turned up with a tachograph exemption form ( https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/754827/declare-heavy-goods-vehicle-does-not-need-tachograph.pdf ) filled in with reason 2 indicated. The examiner will know if its valid! In preparation I also read through the guide for testers (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/774311/hgv-inspection-manual.pdf ). Full of all the important gen. and applicability dates. For example; SIDEGUARDS Motor Vehicles first used from 1 April 1984 with a design gross weight exceeding 3,500kg and where the distance between the centres of any two consecutive axles exceeds 3m; REAR UNDER-RUN DEVICES Rear under-run devices are applicable for motor vehicles with a gross design weight exceeding 3,500kg and first used from 1 April 1984; Its all in there. In effect the vehicle will be tested to the standard it was made for. So there should be no surprises as long as it all works as it should. I was surprised as the inspector used an exhaust gas analyser when it should be visible exhaust, but the reading was very low. Its an AEC of course! The full test is set at 45 mins a re-test after fixing a fault is 10 mins, same as a car. So not too terrible, it did not take that long with the amount that needed looking at on the Milly as compared to a modern truck. The brake tests take the longest time. That's the first test over, from now on it will just be a call to the ATF to book a test, same as a car. I hope that is of some help to someone, most of you will be very familiar with all this but some of us are not and just need pointing in the right direction. Iain
  2. Thanks Robin Yes it will be sad to see her go and I've just got it to the point where it's just about done, but there is always something else to do. The kit took ages to collect, it's those odd items that rarely turn up such as the oxy acetylene kit. The EB and Can-am are safe here for now.... As an asside, I had a copy of an original brochure for the UK Can-am and it was produced for the manufacturer (assembler) BSA. I had no idea BSA had made them! Lent it to a Ca-am expert and never seen it again. Iain
  3. The exemption form is presented to the inspector at the time of MOT, a DVSA examiner will have a good idea if the exemption claimed is valid! As David says DVSA are aware false declarations are being made and excepted by online systems. Just because it is accepted does not mean it is valid. I have just taxed the Milly and for the first time managed it online as the system now says it qualifies for "historic vehicle" MOT exemption. Just so happens it has just lost that exemption of course and has an MOT......
  4. I had a VXR8 with the LS3 and it drove really nicely with a gentle right foot, ok it could liven up when asked. It's fairly modest compared to other GM crate engines, and it sounds Fantastic. With the right box it should be OK, I just need the money!
  5. They seem to tick many of the right boxes for Paul, I still like the limber though.
  6. I've been checking up on the Foden FH70 gun tractor and it seems to have dif locks all over the place. I've always liked them but never had one. Comes complete,with a tea shack on the back and a crane to help load your stuff. Iain
  7. I would think any LGV that does not already have dif locks will be a custom job to modify. I am sure there will be a larger military vehicle out there with dif locks as standard but I cannot think of one right now. Does anyone know of any? What is the width limit, I'm not sure of the with of a Foden but someone on here will be able to advise. Iain
  8. Dare I say Bedford MJ or DAF, perhaps a Foden 6x6 gun limber?
  9. That's going some, I thought my plan of putting an LS3 in my XJ6C was going to upset purists. It would be to make the car more usable in today's traffic and be more "green" you understand........
  10. For sale, A NOS wiper motor, No3 Mk4, F.V.381752/150 I am looking for £60 plus postage. cheers Iain
  11. Hi David You can nominate an ATF that you chose, I suppose the nearest, and leave the time and date. The application will be looked at and they will let you know if it is OK for you to go ahead, you can then get in touch with the ATF and book. DVSA will take your test fee £113 and give you a reference number hopefully the ATF will accept this and just charge a lane fee. They may charge the test fee again but this can be claimed back from DVSA, not a good system. The 23500kg is what the roller road calculated from the measured axel weights. Iain
  12. I'm glad it's been of some use, no point everyone struggling unnecessarily. The initial test is applied for direct to DVSA using a VTG1 and then booked at the ATF, retest and any future test will just be a call to the ATF. I found that my ATF booked about a week or so ahead. Remember you have 14 working days to retest. The Mk3 Recovery has a declared GVW of about 20t but the measured weight was 23500kg. The calculations for brake effort used the GVW so no need to add weight. A cargo truck requiring weight would be down to the owner/operator presenting the vehicle fully prepared with the weight onboard and secured. This ATF and the DVSA examiner did not have a Tapley, so no option other than the roller road. Once you know the system it's not a problem. The only hassle for me was the cost, it's £179 per full test, £73 for a retest. As I had my first test abandoned due to a stuck dif lock it was a second full test at the full charge, it soon adds up. I hope that helps. Iain
  13. Hi Mike Every bolt or screw I have come across has been unified thread except of course pipe fittings etc which so far have been BSP. UNF for screws and bolts, UNC for studs usually. They were made during a time of change and some metric turning up would not have supprised me but it's all old school. I perticularly like unified for some reason. Ill put together a guide to how I found the "first test" procedure and relevant points and requirements. If this helps anyone that would make it worthwhile. Iain
  14. A pic of the equipment with the truck, it also includes a straight bar, a spotlight, a spreader bar with couplings and a complete set of anchor plates and pins. If I find anything else I'll add it in. The fire extinguishers shown on the truck are from the workshop and are not included, they don't fit anyway and were held on with cable ties. Overall the truck is in good original condition and I am carrying out painting as I go. Some little jobs to do (it will never stop), I've to refit the rubber gutter between the cab and rear body and just generally fettle. I can't help it! I am after offers around £17k and will do a good deal on the spares truck if wanted. Cost of transport from Aberdeenshire is not that bad as trucks bringing agricultural machinery regularly head back south empty. I sold a trailer recently that ended up in Braintree and was carried at half price, it was the only item on the truck. Iain
  15. After all the work on the brake system it really paid off and I should have done it anyway. A couple of brakes that had maxed at around 1100kg were up to 2200kg so quite a difference and brought them all up to the same range. So much so the tyres were skidding on the rollers at times, they are a bit big for the rollers. The problem was lack of use, quite common according to the examiners. Everything else was good so that was that, at last. Iain
  16. MOT passed so the Milly is now for sale. Iain
  17. Looks like an Australian registered Landy so not taken from UK I would suspect. I can say from experience that you would be looking at around £2k each way including dockyard handling charges using container shipping. Not cheap. Iain
  18. Exemption 2 is in fact the one I am using with the Mk3 Recovery, it seems that there are very relevant changes since this thread was raised in 2009. It helps to know the facts rather than rely on second hand info. When I get my Milly through the MOT I'll summarise all the relevant gen that I uncovered to make it easier for others. Iain
  19. I thought I would update this old thread as requirements have changed and of interest would be item 30 on the exemption form. DVSA form 75, 2018 revision. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/754827/declare-heavy-goods-vehicle-does-not-need-tachograph.pdf "Vehicle is no longer used for the carriage of goods and is taxed as Private HGV"
  20. What a fantastic event, would love to see more. I'll bet it is very a very social occasion as well!
  21. Hopefully should be plenty photo opportunities...... You wont be missing our weather!
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