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Daimler Y type gear box top.

What is confusing is that all B & Y types part number are  B .... as are the numbers on the plates. This is B3644.

The picture is from Y type  chassis 'Y 5257.

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A  couple of Cleveland/Cletrac images , a bonus with the Pinders Circus image with a FWD in background.

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Almost certain Fiat 15 , the 18BL were on solid tyres in the main.

On 11/2/2022 at 9:35 PM, Cel said:

Not sure if this parts washer was used in WW1 but it could be possible? Anyone has ever seen one like it? Gustav Richter's patent of the Richter Manufacturing Co in Bradford.

Regards

Marcel

I think you will find that this is a waste oil filter ,they were common place in engine rooms, garages  etc. in earlier times .

Wells were a popular make  in the UK, ,  enter in an online search and there are plenty of images of these . 

The 'pocket book' for 1899 is available as a reprint on demand item for not much money,  have a look on ABE Books site, good value for 300 plus pages and the information therein.

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Siddley-Deasy , very similar, this card  was  used  19th.June 1915. 'Base M.T. Depot Breakdown Car'

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Jolly useful if you never use it !

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Regarding the Schneider engine, it could be from a variety of non military sources, The dustcart version could still be seen on the streets of Paris in the late 1950s early 60s.. Large numbers were in use in Paris as the main stay of the motor omnibus fleet, over  1200 model H were in use from 1916 to 1938 and in addition over 50 six wheel the H6 version saw service from 1923 until 1938. Also the Solex radiator is often confuses the make of vehicle De Dion Bouton, Schneider and even Mercedes.

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I am sure that these rear wheels are adapted tank idler wheels. I sold lots of these  ex. Ministry in the late 1970s for use as traction engine rubber tyres, the centres were trepanned out , the remaining band cut open and re rolled to suit the required radius and then welded or bolted to the engine wheels, generally worked out quite successful.

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This is the sort of crane you want !  I am sure somebody will know what it is based upon .

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Extract from Commercial; motor 19.3.1929. Yes, probably built up out of surplus parts but  doubt if many were sold !.

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Back to the Government disposals of 1919 this advertisement that appeared in 'Surplus' for June 1919 predates Slough involvement when it was still a free for all  regarding the sale of motor transport. The magazine  'Surplus' was an official weekly government publication  which ran into the early 1920s. What was on offer and the quantities are truly amazing  from kitchen utensils to floating docks , railway locomotives to aerodromes and complete factories with township included .Some incorrect spelling in this one, Garrick should read Garrett and Rushton  being Ruston ,all smaller steam tractors. (The Rushton ic engine tractor by AEC did not appear until 1928 ) .

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Moving aircraft - not the easiest  of things to do.  Napier  got some good publicity for their efforts but Short Bros., at Rochester had risked plenty of overhang on the 'R' series Pierce-Arrow in Royal Navy ownership. The crew of the Crossley tender look quite pleased with  themselves in Salonika, 1917. !.

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Another image  of a F.W.D. running on gas producer, all of the plants  look somewhat cumbersome. Location and type of plant unknown.  The whole subject of gas producers is very wide ranging form gas bags storing  town ( coal ) gas on roofs of civilian vehicles during  WW1 , lots of experiments in the 1920s/30s, trailer  plants mainly used with buses during WW2 , to integral plants in use in Vietnam 1989 and North Korea in 1992.

North Korea 1992.

Da Nang ,Vietnam 1989.

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Thornycroft  took an early interest in supplying the War Office , first with steam lorries and were keen entrants in various trials held pre. 1914.  Richard Hornsby  and  Daimler  also produced  these heavy tractors but order numbers were small.

This is an assumption  !  - but  I would think  the  units were  manufactured by the Thresh Disinfector Company and the type/model illustrated ( it is an advertising postcard ) is the 'Silver Thimble ' model and is size no. 4. Also its looks to me to be a steam heated type of autoclave, hence mounting on the steam wagon chassis would be an ideal situation. The second image the wagon has an extension chimney  laying on the cab roof for use when stationary working.

Richard.

The steam wagon and traction engine  also played a significant part in the war effort. The war office  purchased 5 Thornycroft wagons in 1902  but for  many  years hence there was a big divide  between  the advocates of horse  or mechanical  transport. The Foden wagon  found many uses including that  of  the steam drum disinfector  for delousing clothing etc. etc . The front mounted railway style buffers was another feature which were no doubt put to good use on many occasions.

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Proprietary engine manufacturers played an important part in the war effort including Dorman, Tylor , White and Poppe etc.

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A couple of offerings today from Mons Engineering, interesting use of the 'Mons'  name and the individual radiator shapes.

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Further to previous mention of the Crossley 'Kegress' , for those of you with a technical interest in such vehicles  some further details  from Commercial Motor .

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The London General Omnibus Co. 'B' type  - straight from the 'Western Front' ,well not quite . Faced with the disposal of over 2500 vehicles  from 1919 onwards these being replaced by the larger 'K' and 'S' types.  Some of the newest examples were offered for sale first as complete vehicles in good order , at least 32  found there way to Australia some even with their double deck bus bodies still fitted . Gradually sales dwindled and by  the end most were broken up for scrap. A few survived a couple more years as works transport  during 1927-29 when AEC moved  from Walthamstow  to Southall.

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For the followers of the ubiquitous Ford 'Model T'. This creation takes some beating, again at Slough where no doubt it  saw  plenty of use .

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Whilst on the subject of 'RAF type ' Leylands  both Commercial Motor  and Motor Transport carried superb  art drawn colour advertisement covers  on their special issues. This RAF type found its way to the Middle East by the look of it .

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The  reconditioned Leyland .

The phrase  ' RAF type Leyland'  became a household name in the then infant haulage business throughout this country and in fact the world.  Few  today know that the whole episode virtually brought financial ruin to the company , mainly brought about by the company paying far too much  for the St. Omer dump and the financial saga rolled on into the 1920s. For more reading on this can be found in the Leyland Society  excellent magazine 'Leyland Torque' issue no. 85 Autumn 2019.

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A small error crept in to the last FWD  posting . It was actually the 1963 London to Brighton commercial run when  two  WW1   restored  lorries put in an appearance being  the Redburn FWD and  the Wolseley of Best Brothers. The Sparshatt  Hallford  was  probably the first  WW1 lorry in private ownership restored to WW1 specification to make a public appearance  being at the 'Old Commercial Vehicle Rally' , Beaulieu  July 1957.

A report on a peacetime convoy in the US  1923 included 75 Class B Liberty and 25  FWD referred to as  'Flirt with Death' by the marines . ummm.....

The Sparshatt Hallford at Beaulieu ,July  1957, it had been recently found locked away at a glove factory at Havant, Hampshire  where it had been last used in  1922.  ( sorry about the quality  ).

Another FWD advertisement , it  is often overlooked  the wide variety of uses these were put to worldwide after WW1 being  rebuilt for  use on railways,  civil engineering , timber trade etc. etc . and very popular with showmen in the travelling amusement trade . The  'Globe of Death' motor cycle stunt show was traveled by Arnold Bros. in the south of England.

Also of note is that a FWD owned by Tommy Redburn as entry no. B3  along with Jack Sparshatt's  Hallford as entry no.B31 were  the first lorries  in WW1  guise appearing  in the  first HCVC London to Brighton commercial vehicle run 1962.

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