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  1. Heres another from Combat and Survival, but the latter was a 75" set I owned, you cant see the yoke, but it was there, I gave to my friend. You can see he attached a s10 (58") resi pouch as a rear pouch. from the fact that C&S featured set up photos withsoldiers some wearing 75" patt webbing, back in the early 90's some must have quite liked it or thought it was Gucci back then, it's a bit sad it's so difficult to find today.
  2. Hi may be of help to someone, I found these pics in an old copy of Combat and Survival to do with "GPMG Sustained fire role" and noticed what the soldier closest to the camera is wearing.... I have found a few other photos, I shall post.
  3. ok just being picky here but...anyone else think the belt is a bit high on this soldier? The belt is overlapping his top pockets which means the belt is probably over his ribs.....I never saw anyone wear 58" pattern that high!
  4. cool, I'll keep a look out for them, I have seen a mint condition RAF OG waterproof in a charity shop from the same era, so it's quite possible there are unused reversible ones are still around.
  5. cool cheers for that. I used to have an OG trashed version of the medical Bergen sidepouch it was pretty well made but must have been pretty old becasue all the elastic straps inside had perished.
  6. Hi met some veterans ans heard a few more: Ok so how do you take your tea/coffee? "NATO" = Milk 2 sugars "Julie Andrews" (in the sound of music was a White Nun=none ) White no sugar "Whoopie Goldberg" (in Sister act was a Black Nun=none ) Black no sugar
  7. cool thanks, i knew the name couldn't something too far from what it actually was, "Mudmap" and "model" both are good for me cheers
  8. Hi I want to run a shellscrape activity for some kids, I was in the Infantry T.A. in the early 90's and the shellscrape was a common overnight shelter for 2 soldiers. The basic hole dimentions were roughly the size of a poncho or a long double bed mattress 7ft x 5ft x 2ft. The removed soil made a mound that surrounds the hole(apart from a small slope at the rear to crawl in and out), The mound/wall at the front (facing the enemy) was slightly longer and had a built in shelf you could use as an arm rest. The surrounding mound/wall aprox 1ft tall and wide gave the shelter more internal head height and provided further protection from all directions, If you got the size right the poncho would sit just above the mound/wall so you could see out and aim your rifle without touching the poncho. Also you'd need to get the size right so the poncho would shed rain on the outside of the hole. I've done a Google search and asked several veterans I know that served in the British Army and RAF regiment from 70's up to the 1st Gulf war, and kosavo, and they all remember making and sleeping in the shellscrape but, were like me, were taught in the field word-of-mouth. My question is this, was there ever an official document or even a line drawing with specific measurements of how the shellscrape should be built? I'm guessing perhaps if there were a document it would probably date back to post WW2 when Platoon harbours type overnight camps became common, perhaps after 2 man tents were a common sight, or perhaps when 58" gear with the poncho and shovel were issued? just a guess. apart from 2 leaky shellscrapes I stayed in I found them really quite comfortable to sleep in, you could adapt them slightly to make more space and because of the surrounding soil they were always quiet and well insulated against wind and cold. once you got a hexy going they were really cosy. It would be dead easy to just make a shell scrape the way I was taught, but it would be nice to know if there is an official document. I've looked in British Army issued MoD Aide Memouires, field guides and MoD training pamphlets but the only thing they ever show is a few trench designs, never the shellscrape. any ideas? cheers
  9. Thanks for that list! You're right about "Ally", I'd not heard of that till long after my TA time i also knew nice or desirable kit as Gucci. Also I'd not heard the phrase "Buckshee" meaning free, we just said..."free" or nicked There was lots of cockney rhyming slang like: "Tea leaf", or just "leaf" = theif I like the CEFO and CEMO, not heard that version before! there are many, MANY slang versions that also include swear words or "Army only" sense of humour the "tinned tomatoes" I think prtobably are on that list. I had a serious look at all the acronyms too, there are hundreds, and as I was writing a list I realised how many are have confusinly similar or even the same Acronym for example: "ERV Emergency Rendevous" could depending on who was giving instructions could also mean... "ERV Eastern Rendevous" C.O. = Commanding Officer/ C.O. = Commisioned Officer. C.D. Civil Defence / C.D. Casualty Dead I personally didn't leave East Anglia or spend any time with the Navy or Airforce, so perhaps the lingo I heard and used was more local Army focussed.
  10. Might be a localised thing, I never heard a rifle reffered to as a "Boondock", you'd almost certainly end up doing press-ups, if you did! It was bad enough if you even said "SA80", or "SLR" it didn't matter what Gun you were issued you were obliged to call it "Rifle". As for training areas, "Cud"?...naah, again not heard of it. We just used an abreviation or whatever it was actually called, for example a well known training area I went to in Norfolk was "Standford Battle area" but it was known to everyone simply as "Stanta". Probably partially because it's the same abbreviated name as seen on MoD roadsigns nearby. but of course, it being "Dads Army"... "Cud" may be a fictional name.
  11. I don't know the ferret car but perhaps it's a pad designed for a smaller build person? perhaps it covers something sharp near the brow area? Is it for a chin, forearm, wrist, cheek, etc etc?
  12. For those that have done infantry training, on excersise you'd come across a DIY map which a dutiful OC or NCO would have spend some time making. The map was made from pretty much anything to hand, mine tape, wire, string, bit's of rations hexi stoves whatever you had, it would often include handfuls of grass or moss to represent wooded areas and I saw a couple that had been carefuly landscaped to show miniture hills, they would also show when the enemy was expected to be and things like ERVs you can buy specific kits to make the maps see below: Cammand model kit on that website they don't give those maps a name, just as a tool to I can't for the life of me remember what the heck those DIY handmade 3d maps were called...any ideas?
  13. keep finding new ones I didn't know... Furry Crocodile = Dog!
  14. cool many thanks, BTW anyone know the origins of the word "Ally" meaning cool kit? I'm assuming it's an abreviation, but of what? I've looked online and can only find the meaning "allied", I can't think it came from. Cheers again
  15. Hi just doing a little reseach for some veteran friends, I want to try to make an extensive list of Army RAF and Navy slang and phrases from the 70's onwards. I've remembered quite there are loads on line wikipeadia and ARRSE have a selection https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary_of_British_military_slang_and_expressions https://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Army_Slang I remember there were loads more for example what was the phrase for Underpants? was it keks, skivvies, and there are some phrases you don't hear anywhere else like: "Don't call me Sir, I work for a living" (if you called anyone less than an officer, Sir). But can't remember all of them, can you think of any more words or phrases you used or kew of? localised ones? cheers
  16. OH My Gosh, I said I'd do some charity work, that requires a smart DPM Uniform, Dammit, I can't pair up anything in my DPM collection of Jackets and trousers that match exactly! lol S'pose it's authentic though, none of my ( or anyone elses) issued T.A. gear matched, see my passing out parade photo, no one's combats matched! Note: 5 variations of DPM colours on view, 84 and 68 and probably other jackets, why was it called "Uniform" again? we were supposed to wear the nylon belts too but half of us were never issued them. (I'm bottom far right with the closed eyes!) the shorter corpral was always messing around with us hence his beret is on backwards!
  17. Hi I have a first aid pouch, I assume issued with OG PLCE but the attatchment seems very basic just a single vertical strap, no "C" clip or velcro flap. Just wondering if it was part of standard kit or not. It's OG PLCE material, has a single fastex clousure and folds open to reveal 3 pouches one is open, the other 2 have velcro'd lids The info printed on it: "PACK MEDICAL EQUIPMENT 6545-99-978-4567 SL32A/5077 RR90" ( theres also a tiny circular stamp I assume a QC mark can't make out the words but it has a 38 in the center)
  18. that looks like the one, as for Paras using the reversible kit, I can understand Royal Marines being issued kit and it staying "Navy issue" but The Paras too, they were always rivals! I'm surprised it didn't filter down into squaddies Gucci kit, pretty much all the rest of the Para related gear did!
  19. Hi here are the pics, I lined it up next to a standard MoD mat and everything matches. I had another really close look on both sides of it, and theres no evidence of any ink stamps at all. The olive standard MoD side (nothing to see here) The white side, the only visible mark is a surname in capitals (covered by the top brick on the white side) I had to use bricks it's windy here. Below, I've tried to show the standard MoD mat (not rolled tightly) next to so you can see the thickness/texture.is pretty much the same. If anything the two sided one seems to roll up slightly more easily perhaps it's slightly more pliable? but it's been untouched in the loft for a while so it might just be because it's been rolled up a long time. Like other reversable items I wonder if the white seen at the side here is enough white to give away a position? A platoon's worth of these white blobs marching along on bergens would be pretty visible against a dark background such as forest paths or heather, or grassy plain. When you remember(or know) how OCD you have to be about camouflaging yourself and kit, hiding shiny plastic buttons, face paint on the backs of ears and hands, blacking up a beret metal badge with a sharpie, this amount of white viewed from the side just seems crazy, even setting up a bivi in wind could flap the mat around and that be seen from a long way! perhaps it was only issued in areas known to have of patchy or deep snow rather than other temperate uses.
  20. Cool, thanks for that, just going to get it down, I'm meeting at a Remeniscence meeting this week, so getting some of my CEFO and CEMO out.
  21. WOW, always a bit of a lucky dip with suplus stuff! I bought an East German "raindrop" camo jacket, rolled up neatly in the pocket, a Parachute Regt tie! Weird what you find sometimes.
  22. Hi I've came across a Green/white reversible roll mat. in good condition bought it for £2 from a furniture shop. Identical in design to the well known Brit version same thickness and feel, same brass grommits, the same green cotton feeling fabric tape you tie in a bow when the mat is stored. It's possibly 2 thinner (olive/white)mats joined (welded rather than glued) during factory construction. there does not seem to be any sort of coating. Being reversible it can be stored rolled olive out or white side out to provide snow camo, The simple fact it has White on one side suggests a temperate if not Northern european user. I've never seen another one, I've Tried to research it, tried Google, but can't find anything about it, I don't even know if it's Brit, US, or foreign issue? Sadly I can't find any markings on it at all (apart from the users scrawled name in marker pen), and I have no idea how old it is, it could well be decades old and there is very little wear on it. My first thought was that it might be something to do with the "Royal Marine Arctic warfare Cadre" but I've nothing to back it up. Is it possible it's another rare trial piece of kit? I'll do a photo in the morning.
  23. lol I was going to mention it, I saw one on E-bay once but couldn' say if it was brit issue, funny thing though, perhaps the square one was desined for the 75 issue kit? I used to have a set, and I couldn't find an Army bottle that fitted the large pouches well. but the Mess tins seemd to fit well, make of that what you want, because I'm pretty sure the pouches would have been really designed for ammo! check out the photo, I was just out on a winter adventurous hike with a friend here, (I wish I'd kept the "over-white" jacket!) I used a collection of mixed ALICE gear middle of picture, and I'd given my 75" set to my friend (on the bottom right) you can see that both main side pouches are open with american style clips to the lower right note it has non 75" pouches added. bytl 58 Gas mask pouch and a civilian made US copy waterbottle pouch. goodness knows how they were attatched, probably a fair amount of paracord and bungees, lol
  24. Hi some years ago when Combat and Survival was still paper, they used to run a series about historical kit. I lost interest in the magazine in the 90's but remember they did one later on perhaps after 2000 that I missed, and now isn't available. I think there may have been covered over a few issues it was titled something like: "British late cold war web kit". Does anyone have a copy they could photocopy for me to look at? I realise It's pretty much identical to kit I would have used, I.e. a mishmash of issue and non issue kit held together with bungees, tank tape, and luck. Just interested to see if theres anything I forgot, that I can add to my collection. Cheers
  25. Thats interesting, I wonder why they only made black, and why the MoD didn't just continue with an updated 44" cup?
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