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  1. Thanks for that list! You're right about "Ally", I'd not heard of that till long after my TA time i also knew nice or desirable kit as Gucci. Also I'd not heard the phrase "Buckshee" meaning free, we just said..."free" or nicked There was lots of cockney rhyming slang like: "Tea leaf", or just "leaf" = theif I like the CEFO and CEMO, not heard that version before! there are many, MANY slang versions that also include swear words or "Army only" sense of humour the "tinned tomatoes" I think prtobably are on that list. I had a serious look at all the acronyms too, there are hundreds, and as I was writing a list I realised how many are have confusinly similar or even the same Acronym for example: "ERV Emergency Rendevous" could depending on who was giving instructions could also mean... "ERV Eastern Rendevous" C.O. = Commanding Officer/ C.O. = Commisioned Officer. C.D. Civil Defence / C.D. Casualty Dead I personally didn't leave East Anglia or spend any time with the Navy or Airforce, so perhaps the lingo I heard and used was more local Army focussed.
  2. Might be a localised thing, I never heard a rifle reffered to as a "Boondock", you'd almost certainly end up doing press-ups, if you did! It was bad enough if you even said "SA80", or "SLR" it didn't matter what Gun you were issued you were obliged to call it "Rifle". As for training areas, "Cud"?...naah, again not heard of it. We just used an abreviation or whatever it was actually called, for example a well known training area I went to in Norfolk was "Standford Battle area" but it was known to everyone simply as "Stanta". Probably partially because it's the same abbreviated name as seen on MoD roadsigns nearby. but of course, it being "Dads Army"... "Cud" may be a fictional name.
  3. I don't know the ferret car but perhaps it's a pad designed for a smaller build person? perhaps it covers something sharp near the brow area? Is it for a chin, forearm, wrist, cheek, etc etc?
  4. For those that have done infantry training, on excersise you'd come across a DIY map which a dutiful OC or NCO would have spend some time making. The map was made from pretty much anything to hand, mine tape, wire, string, bit's of rations hexi stoves whatever you had, it would often include handfuls of grass or moss to represent wooded areas and I saw a couple that had been carefuly landscaped to show miniture hills, they would also show when the enemy was expected to be and things like ERVs you can buy specific kits to make the maps see below: Cammand model kit on that website they don't give those maps a name, just as a tool to I can't for the life of me remember what the heck those DIY handmade 3d maps were called...any ideas?
  5. keep finding new ones I didn't know... Furry Crocodile = Dog!
  6. cool many thanks, BTW anyone know the origins of the word "Ally" meaning cool kit? I'm assuming it's an abreviation, but of what? I've looked online and can only find the meaning "allied", I can't think it came from. Cheers again
  7. Hi just doing a little reseach for some veteran friends, I want to try to make an extensive list of Army RAF and Navy slang and phrases from the 70's onwards. I've remembered quite there are loads on line wikipeadia and ARRSE have a selection https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary_of_British_military_slang_and_expressions https://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Army_Slang I remember there were loads more for example what was the phrase for Underpants? was it keks, skivvies, and there are some phrases you don't hear anywhere else like: "Don't call me Sir, I work for a living" (if you called anyone less than an officer, Sir). But can't remember all of them, can you think of any more words or phrases you used or kew of? localised ones? cheers
  8. OH My Gosh, I said I'd do some charity work, that requires a smart DPM Uniform, Dammit, I can't pair up anything in my DPM collection of Jackets and trousers that match exactly! lol S'pose it's authentic though, none of my ( or anyone elses) issued T.A. gear matched, see my passing out parade photo, no one's combats matched! Note: 5 variations of DPM colours on view, 84 and 68 and probably other jackets, why was it called "Uniform" again? we were supposed to wear the nylon belts too but half of us were never issued them. (I'm bottom far right with the closed eyes!) the shorter corpral was always messing around with us hence his beret is on backwards!
  9. Hi I have a first aid pouch, I assume issued with OG PLCE but the attatchment seems very basic just a single vertical strap, no "C" clip or velcro flap. Just wondering if it was part of standard kit or not. It's OG PLCE material, has a single fastex clousure and folds open to reveal 3 pouches one is open, the other 2 have velcro'd lids The info printed on it: "PACK MEDICAL EQUIPMENT 6545-99-978-4567 SL32A/5077 RR90" ( theres also a tiny circular stamp I assume a QC mark can't make out the words but it has a 38 in the center)
  10. that looks like the one, as for Paras using the reversible kit, I can understand Royal Marines being issued kit and it staying "Navy issue" but The Paras too, they were always rivals! I'm surprised it didn't filter down into squaddies Gucci kit, pretty much all the rest of the Para related gear did!
  11. Hi here are the pics, I lined it up next to a standard MoD mat and everything matches. I had another really close look on both sides of it, and theres no evidence of any ink stamps at all. The olive standard MoD side (nothing to see here) The white side, the only visible mark is a surname in capitals (covered by the top brick on the white side) I had to use bricks it's windy here. Below, I've tried to show the standard MoD mat (not rolled tightly) next to so you can see the thickness/texture.is pretty much the same. If anything the two sided one seems to roll up slightly more easily perhaps it's slightly more pliable? but it's been untouched in the loft for a while so it might just be because it's been rolled up a long time. Like other reversable items I wonder if the white seen at the side here is enough white to give away a position? A platoon's worth of these white blobs marching along on bergens would be pretty visible against a dark background such as forest paths or heather, or grassy plain. When you remember(or know) how OCD you have to be about camouflaging yourself and kit, hiding shiny plastic buttons, face paint on the backs of ears and hands, blacking up a beret metal badge with a sharpie, this amount of white viewed from the side just seems crazy, even setting up a bivi in wind could flap the mat around and that be seen from a long way! perhaps it was only issued in areas known to have of patchy or deep snow rather than other temperate uses.
  12. Cool, thanks for that, just going to get it down, I'm meeting at a Remeniscence meeting this week, so getting some of my CEFO and CEMO out.
  13. WOW, always a bit of a lucky dip with suplus stuff! I bought an East German "raindrop" camo jacket, rolled up neatly in the pocket, a Parachute Regt tie! Weird what you find sometimes.
  14. Hi I've came across a Green/white reversible roll mat. in good condition bought it for £2 from a furniture shop. Identical in design to the well known Brit version same thickness and feel, same brass grommits, the same green cotton feeling fabric tape you tie in a bow when the mat is stored. It's possibly 2 thinner (olive/white)mats joined (welded rather than glued) during factory construction. there does not seem to be any sort of coating. Being reversible it can be stored rolled olive out or white side out to provide snow camo, The simple fact it has White on one side suggests a temperate if not Northern european user. I've never seen another one, I've Tried to research it, tried Google, but can't find anything about it, I don't even know if it's Brit, US, or foreign issue? Sadly I can't find any markings on it at all (apart from the users scrawled name in marker pen), and I have no idea how old it is, it could well be decades old and there is very little wear on it. My first thought was that it might be something to do with the "Royal Marine Arctic warfare Cadre" but I've nothing to back it up. Is it possible it's another rare trial piece of kit? I'll do a photo in the morning.
  15. lol I was going to mention it, I saw one on E-bay once but couldn' say if it was brit issue, funny thing though, perhaps the square one was desined for the 75 issue kit? I used to have a set, and I couldn't find an Army bottle that fitted the large pouches well. but the Mess tins seemd to fit well, make of that what you want, because I'm pretty sure the pouches would have been really designed for ammo! check out the photo, I was just out on a winter adventurous hike with a friend here, (I wish I'd kept the "over-white" jacket!) I used a collection of mixed ALICE gear middle of picture, and I'd given my 75" set to my friend (on the bottom right) you can see that both main side pouches are open with american style clips to the lower right note it has non 75" pouches added. bytl 58 Gas mask pouch and a civilian made US copy waterbottle pouch. goodness knows how they were attatched, probably a fair amount of paracord and bungees, lol
  16. Hi some years ago when Combat and Survival was still paper, they used to run a series about historical kit. I lost interest in the magazine in the 90's but remember they did one later on perhaps after 2000 that I missed, and now isn't available. I think there may have been covered over a few issues it was titled something like: "British late cold war web kit". Does anyone have a copy they could photocopy for me to look at? I realise It's pretty much identical to kit I would have used, I.e. a mishmash of issue and non issue kit held together with bungees, tank tape, and luck. Just interested to see if theres anything I forgot, that I can add to my collection. Cheers
  17. Thats interesting, I wonder why they only made black, and why the MoD didn't just continue with an updated 44" cup?
  18. Hi I found several photos, of the reversable jacket being used in anger, (some photos are clearer than others) all of the photos were taken during the Falklands war. All of the jacket users shown are Royal Marines. The photos were copied from the publications as mentioned before: "War in the Falklands,The campaign in pictures, By the Sunday express Magazine team" and "The Falklands war, Marshall Cavendish Magazine" On the colour photos the jacket is obvious but the black and white ones you can see the stark white inside of the collar. The white is clearly visible even on the poor quality photos with the green side outer, and I'm assuming that on occasion the flash of white on rainy days was found to be too visible and gave away positions in a mostly green brown temperate background, and the reversable jacket idea was eventually binned in favour of DPM and overwhites. also Breathable materials were just becoming available which trump PU coated nylon.
  19. Hi, I have a large Fire engine red metal box about 2ft x2ft x18" with a partly removed see through sticky back plastic sticker, it says: (in bold black print) "ANTI POYS BEATHING A"........the rest has been ripped off (The "A" I assume was APPARATUS) "ANTI POYS" to me seems a very odd word, it would seem to be English, it's most likly an abreviation of "poison", by why the "Y" ? (no pun intended) So Who works with Poison and breathing Apparatus? Farmers? Chemists? Fire dept? Police? It has a large suitcase style handle and metal clips on the lid, Because of it's bulky size and weight (more so if full), I can't think it would be carried far so perhaps something normally stored on a vehicle? I asked a Friend that was in the London fire service for decades he has never seen a box like it, or with that spelling, perhaps it came from Civil defence or some sort of NBC group? any thoughts, Cheers
  20. Sorry just edided my oprevious answer which now mentions dying. Basically No! it wouldn't look right. unless all the pouches are the same colour you'll never get the right shade or colour, also the canvas pouches came with a basic waterproofing coating, which would stop dye working in some cases. The other thing is this, When I was in the Army, no one was issued (or had) a completely matching set of webbing, the set I was issued was so knackered I had to sew parts of it before I could use it. Very few soldiers had "Green pouches" most were that sort of earthy grey colour but mixed with pouches like the resipouch that were much darker the only pouches that were always green were the large pack because it had such little use!
  21. Hi Robin, after a little testing as to how thick it was I gently prized most of the flaky stuff off off with a blunt penknife blade, i then tried dabs of methalated spirits, and petrol (seperately) which removed some other stains, possibly paint stained with marker pen, and the really nasty black grease or oil that was present. (white spirit would also work) IMPORTANT: Meths and petrol can leave stains, so it's importand to wash thoroughly after using them. After that I removed the petrol smell and a fair amount of further residual paint and dirt with a standard washing up brush and liquid. Lots of wrinsing later, there was still quite alot of solid pink paint deep in the fibres some of which i picked out with tweezers I think but I couldn't get it all. The patch of light pink that I just couldn't shift and was embedded so far I would have had to cut the material. so I used a sharpie (light grey and dark green I think) firstly in tiny dots then larger dots to camouflage the pink, you have to use a bit of artistic descernment here, too little and you get a spotty pouch, too much and you get a dark green blob, you have to know when to stop. You can see the darker blobs of green around the stitching at the top front of the pouch, but from a short distance you can't tell. If you zoom in on the photo (between the rivets top front) you can still see the pinky and grey paint between the threads that are still coated in paint. the sharpie gave just enough of a blend that the paint dissapeard a bit. I've done the same with many pouches and even some clothes it always seems to turn out fairly well. Wish I'd done a before and after piccy now, I will next time! I guess If I wasn't collecting it, there is always the option to re-dye a canvas item, but you'd never get the perfect colour and theres so much residual S*** in army surplus gear from engine and gun oil, spilled paint, mud, food grease to various chemicals (even CS gas) the fabric you never quite know how much would soak in. I wouldn't.
  22. Hi thanks for commenting, I have seen photos online of matching sets, but as you'd know the cups are more breakable, so I guess they died and were replaced with standard black cups. Just as likely thrown away in favour of the alloy 44" pat cup which was the trend for decades before the crusader cup came along. I had a chat with someone else some years back and they said, the reason they didn't stick with Green was because light could just about get through the plastic and bacteria could grow more easily, so they went with black, same as all the much larger vehicle water containers.I think there is a definite taste difference in water from the green bottles too perhaps it's an early rejected "taste bad" plastic?. When I picked up the bottles, years ago now, it was from one of those huge 2ft x2ft boxes of surplus just full of mostly black 58" water bottles, I remember them being 50p sadly many had holes, splits, melted areas or were covered in tank tape which I assumed was probably a quick field repair. i picked out a couple of good bottles and the 2 green ones, all had the new S10 lid. I can only think the company QM or soldier they were last issued to added the S10 lids, as any one else wouldn't have needed the adapter, and the surplus store just wanted the job-lot gone, a shame to think the original lids probably collectable now, just went in a bin!
  23. I think for actual military use I too would question night vision effectiveness, but that aside as an overall effect it a really nice, effect, and if you wanted a " less Military" looking kit that is still an effective camo for camping or nature watching then you've done a fantastic job! well done. Can I ask how you did it?
  24. Hi an interesting collection, I have 2 green ones myself, I didn't realsie there were so many of the black version! Nice
  25. Finally my "uber rare" Green 58" water bottles, yes they are genuine! I don't have the origonal lids they both came with the S10 adapter. Sadly I don't have the even rarer green cups that went with them. cool thing is they are different shades of green and even 2 manufacturers! on the right a standard Osprey bottle. They all have the familiar warning "KEEP AWAY FROM HEAT OR FLAME" and they all have the "crowsfoot arrow" center the lighter shaded "olive" coloured bottle markings are: CAT. No. 973-6665 1965 F & G (on the base F&G) The darker "forest green" markings are: CAT. No. 0035 1962 (on the base are 2 words in tiny lettering "Casealloid" and also possibly "Caseaflex") here you can see the subtle difference in the shape and design the darker left has a curved bac like the modern black version, the other is totally flat. hope you like the kit, as far as I know it's all genuine please feel free to ask anything.
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