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  1. 2590-99-802-9183 identifies it in VAOS as LV6/MT4/CB/BCK30 although one could have constructed that oneself, such is logic of VAOS unlike the NIIN of NSNs. It also identifies a Prestolite no. 1871300 Unfortunately there is no RAF Vocab identified but as a double check I went through the AP 1086 Section 16E & drew a blank. Had it been listed it would have given a vehicle application, unlike VAOS that rarely states an application. It is a case of having a hunch about a vehicle then checking in the parts lists for a match. From EMER POWER is see BCK-30T was used in two applications. I assume T might means tropicalised. 24v & used in Regulator C25T fitted in Control Boards 155/6X & 155/9X. MWR used BCK-3 in Control Board 141-2
  2. I think that was Kane's Humber you are referring to, I think that went to somewhere like Belgium. I didn't mind people not appreciating my vehicles or asking strange questions as long as the they are not aggressive in their manner. I'm sorry to say I have witnessed some MV owners fly off the handle when someone has politely questioned some aspect of their vehicle & the questioner is dismissed as their opinion or observation is not valid because they don't own a MV themselves, although owning one is no guarantee you will be listened to either! There are actually some interesting people out there who may have intriguing insights into your vehicle, that can only come about through polite dialogue. I have had many interesting snippets of history come to light by keeping an open mind & a cool temper.
  3. Andy you mentioned "rarity value" but I'm not sure that is always the case. For some 14 years I used to display a Hornet/Malkara which was very rare indeed. Strangely if I was parked next to a Jeep or Land Rover those vehicles would command more interest from the public than the Hornet. I think the reason was people would like to own a Jeep/Land Rover, used to drive one or father used to etc whereas people would dismiss the Hornet as not real or home-made, suggesting it was built on a Land Rover asking silly questions about the smoke dischargers (not the missiles for some reason), asking if it floated & endless tapping of the armoured body. Sometimes veterans were the most aggressively dismissive stating that they served in the Army & never saw one so it clearly was a fantasy vehicle of my own making.
  4. I think if space is limited & vehicle applications are oversubscribed, then some people wanting to display a vehicle will be disappointed. So in that situation it seems reasonable that organisers would restrict entries so that there was not an excess of any one type. This is what has always happened at GDSF & seems to give a good spread of MVs of all types. PS I speak as one who has been excluded from a show because "I just had a Land Rover."
  5. Jon if you want dark green 1950s canvas 3m x 3m I recommend this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ExMOD-1953-Canvas-Heavy-Duty-Tarpaulin-Sheet-3mx3m-w-Brass-Eyelets-FREE-POSTAGE/333340565535?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 It arrived today NOS & smells nice : ) I got it to cover a farmyard implement outdoors & it looks very durable unlike the modern canvas I was looking at of a similar price.
  6. Other incarnations can be found below: WO Code No 17833 UHB WO Code No 12470 Parts List WO Code No 13168 Servicing Schedule WO Code 33869 Complete Equipment Schedule (CES) EMER WHEELED VEHICLES U 200/4 series Your contract number will define which you need. Is yours a FV2301(N) or FV2362?
  7. I think you will find the publications you need are: WO Code No 17833 UHB WO Code No 17812 Parts List WO Code No 10790 Servicing Schedule WO Code No 18339 Table No 1173 Table of Tools & Equipment (TOTE) EMER VEHICLES GENERAL Q 522/3 Technical Handbook
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    If an Equipment Management Policy Statement/Letter has been raised in later years sometimes an estimate of the original cost of the equipment is given. Although I have documents for Ferret & Pig the indexes for EMPS & EMPL show that there was no such document for Saracen. The Catalogue of Materiel Authorised for Establishment Purposes (which is part of Materiel Regulations for the Army) will give a current book value. I only have the 1972 edition which shows a dramatic change from the quoted purchase price.
  9. Instinctively I expect AFV components to be dark green in some form & if it is aircraft I expect it to be black. I have just run that manufacturer's part number past several million NSNs to see if it has been codified, but nothing came up. So looks unlikely that it is a component for a tank.
  10. Bryan just do what you can as & when you can. Instalments would be fine!
  11. Sean I've attached it to a PM to you, hope it arrives.
  12. I have a scan of the Servicing Schedule I'll send you. A delight to see a museum open to advice & asking for help. This is in contrast to my experience of a museum I visited recently who were quite hostile to offers of help, despite some serious anomalies in their maintenance of an armoured vehicle often taken on the road.
  13. Thank you that's an excellent contribution. Um if you have any spare time on your hands 5th edition would I'm sure hold many gems of info : )
  14. Boundary Markers https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1393922
  15. Sorry just thought as we were in a Morris Traveller thread that was what was being implied.
  16. This surely is a Morris panel van, not a Traveller. I spoke to the owner some decades ago, he had a broad Welsh accent & told me he had bought it from a Mrs Prosser but he had decided to depict it as a military vehicle in the markings of a Bomb Disposal vehicle. He said he had never seen evidence that such vehicles were used his role but if they had been used this is how it would have looked. He added that nobody had corrected him on his representation as not being realistic. The thing is, it not very pleasant to go up to someone with their vehicle & start an argument with the owner's pride & joy. They are not likely to make any changes on the basis of such an observation that would be taken as criticism. To me it would have looked nicer restored as a GPO linesman's van, which I think is what it was. He was pleasant old chap who had been quite open about its history so I just smiled, thanked him & walked away.
  17. Skelly might be something in the tentage overview on here:
  18. Oh crikey that'll take a while esp as the PC has crashed out. Starting with the Truncheon, wood, hickory O467-8465-99-428-0717 Note the DMC (Domestic Management Code) is O467 & not to be read as 0467 O467 is the RN DMC for INDIVIDUAL EQUIPMENT INCLUDING HANDCUFFS, WHISTLES & BATONS Although that is how it was codified in recent times, Lists of Change Vol LXIX introduced it on 29th September 1959 into VAOS (Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores) Section KC as Batons (Cat No. KC 19252) "The Baton is made of hickory wood, 24 in long, incorporating a hand grip. A leather thong is affixed for securing to the wrist of the user. The above items are hereby introduced." So we have an exact time marker for its introduction. The other item to which it refers is Shields (Cat No. KC 19253) (For anti-riot use) & gives a description of its structure.
  19. Just a few to be going on with: MARAUDER, STARTRAIN, CYCLET, SNIFFER, SWEEP, HED, PROBAN, DUBLOON, PANTAC, BED, CATS, CLARIBEL, EALS, ARIES, MINISID, UGS, DISID, MAGID, PORTABLE, DOMINO, STL, HELI-TELE, STARTRON, PNG, NITEC, NITESUN, NOD, SHORTIE, ACR FIREFLY, BETALIGHT, NODSPOT, GNAT, BLACKBOARD, BUBBLE, BUCKEYE, CLASSIC, CUED, DIVA, FLICKER, GAMMAMAT, GATWES, GOBLIN, GROUND OWL, HED, HOTROD, KEYSTONE, NEEDLE, OPSTATS, PAWPAW, PIGSTICK, POLESTAR, QUELL, RAPISCAN, SHORACRE, SHRIKE, SLIM, SPYGLASS, TELDIX, TIBEROUS, WOZZECK and not to forget TRUNCHEON, WOOD, HICKORY (an RN stores item!)
  20. You are right that the B60 Mk 5A is quite common. EMERs & Roll Royce publications give no key to the detail of a change of the final letter other than indicate it is an external feature change such as provision for generator, governor, PTO etc. I have experience of the Mk 5F which was the engine fitted to FV1620 Hornet that had the mounting for 100A alternator rather than the dynamo versions. These engine were marked 5A but over-stamped 5F. Mk 5K was fitted to the FV1622 that had a Type 589/1B iso-speed governor which was larger than the Type 556 used on some B60s that may have used a different letter again. 5K was also seen over-stamped on 5F. I have now found the AP. Although the cover indicates Mk 5G much of the text is mistyped as Mk 50G. I can find no reference to a governor nor anything particularly remarkable. There is no mention of Mk 5G/1. Predating NSN codification, the part numbers given are Rolls Royce & RAF Vocab sections, obviously not being for Army use there are no VAOS part numbers although there are some FV number cross-references. Cross-referencing to the Simms or CAV generators show that it was fitted with the standard 24v 12A dynamo. Working from serial numbers there appear to be only 66 such engines. RR Spec CL1843 14 off RR Spec CL2574 52 off It states they were fitted to 4F/2394 Trolley Electrical, Servicing & Starting 10/40 KW Hope that helps a bit.
  21. Probably RAF, it was covered in Air Publication 2173G Vol.3 Part 1. B60 Mk 5G. Schedule of Spare Parts. May 1963 I'll dig it out & have a look.
  22. First of 20 prototype Pigs FV1609A appeared in 1956
  23. Yes you were right & like you I'm not quite sure what its doing on this thread : ) It is sad when sites that set themselves up to be reference sources have duff info that can mislead people in all innocence that draw info from their site. A few years ago, as well as the Pig wiki pages I took down a lot of stuff from the Shorland pages, which is why both look rather sparse but there is still stuff on these pages that needs attention.
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