Willyslancs Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Can anyone tell me anything about this bag? There is only a letter G stamped on the inside .It is curved (maybe for magazines?)........ We feel it might be german/swiss , but who knows?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 This looks very like a civilian Hunting Canteen. Is it diveided? You say there is a G in it, is it a sort of double O one on top of the other G.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyslancs Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 This looks very like a civilian Hunting Canteen. Is it diveided? You say there is a G in it, is it a sort of double O one on top of the other G.? No dividers in it mate , and its just a G......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I would also like to know as I have one. Was told it held mags. for a ??? but forgot :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 It is most definitley originally design to be attached to a saddle. The D's and position of the buckles etc prove that. I was hoping the G was ornate, as that is the trade mark of W. A. Goold. Nice and simple. The leaer looks to be a top quality vegtable tan, but the big brass fittings aren't typical of English saddlery.Are those screws in the front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyslancs Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 It is most definitley originally design to be attached to a saddle. The D's and position of the buckles etc prove that. I was hoping the G was ornate, as that is the trade mark of W. A. Goold. Nice and simple. The leaer looks to be a top quality vegtable tan, but the big brass fittings aren't typical of English saddlery.Are those screws in the front? Rivets if i remember correctly mate (its round at my dads )...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) It is a magasin bag, for Madsen machine gun, use by the Portuguese. It was made by a danish company that exported weapons to a lot of countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madsen_machine_gun. Normaly it should have a metal frame inside, in the top, that divides that in to five slots. Edited July 3, 2011 by Niels v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyslancs Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 It is a magasin bag, for Madsen machine gun, use by the Portuguese. It was a danish company that exported weapons to a lot of countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madsen_machine_gun. Normaly it should have a metal frame inside, in the top, that divides that in to five slots. Doesnt look like anything in the pic mate ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Looking at the construction, there are things that don't look quite right. The leather and fittings look to have been artifically aged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyslancs Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 Looking at the construction, there are things that don't look quite right. The leather and fittings look to have been artifically aged. Looking at it this afternoon mate , and it does look old , just not been used , dad has collected militaria /webbing since ww2 so he has a rough idea of things ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 The leather looks like pigskin. The veined apprance with distinct hair folicles. Very expensive leather, not normally used on military kit, you get very little of it per skin and tan. Sometimes cow leather is facked to make it look like pigskin. There is just something about the stiching dosen't look right. I've spent many years trusting my life to leather saddlery and fittings. It is just to fancy to be military, but not quite good enough to be a European leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) Sorry But it is a magasin bag for Madsen. I can take some pictures of my bag with magasin in The Wiki link was just to show which weapon it was. I found this picture on the net where it can be seen. there is also a One magasin bag. They where a one point sold in denmark as trendy ladies handbag. a lot of madsens guns and equipment surfaced a couple of years ago and much was sold at W&P. Edited July 3, 2011 by Niels v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyslancs Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 oh right , cheers mate !!...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Thanks. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyslancs Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 so what kind of dates were they used /made mate?....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 From about 1902 till 2009 apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 yes the first designs where from the late 1890 and I just found these pictures of them being used in brazil around 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 The Marsden SMG is often used in films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stableboy Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The Marsden SMG is often used in films. very rare - issued only to staff at one hospital. alledgedly......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 very rare - issued only to staff at one hospital. alledgedly......... ??? http://www.museumoftechnology.org.uk/military.php?cab=weapons Quote"The Madsen was a light machine gun developed by Julius A. Rasmussen and Theodor Schoubue and proposed for adoption by Captain Vilhelm Herman Oluf Madsen, the Danish Minister of War and adopted by the Danish Army in 1902. It was one of the first true light machine guns produced in quantity and sold to over 34 different countries worldwide, seeing extensive combat use in various conflicts around the globe for over 80 years The Madsen was produced by Compagnie Madsen A/S (later operating as Dansk Rekyl Riffel Syndikat A/S and then Dansk Industri Syndikat A/S). The Madsen continued to be used by the Military Police of Rio de Janeiro State, Brazil, with 7.62 calibre. Although some of the Brazilian guns were captured from drug traffickers and pressed into service (mostly old weapons originating from the Argentine Army as well as some stolen from museums, the majority of Madsens used by the Brazilian police were donated by the Brazilian Army. Those guns were .30 cal weapons converted to fit 7.62 mm calibre. Official sources state that the Brazilian army retired the Madsen machine gun in 1996. The Brazilian police guns are, from 2008, being substituted by more modern guns with faster rates of fire. It was reported that the last Madsen guns were finally retired in April 2008. However, photos taken during clashes between Brazilian police and drug traffickers on October 19, 2009 clearly show the Madsen gun still in use by the Brazilian police This one is marked with Portuguese Crest and RP." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 That's the Madsen Mike, Stableboy was referring to the Marsden....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Yes I agree THEY are rare aren't they.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 :pfrt: http://world.guns.ru/smg/dk/madsen-m46-m50-m53-e.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 :pfrt: :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stableboy Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 That's the Madsen Mike, Stableboy was referring to the Marsden....... i thank you.... .....it's all about getting the right letters in the right order... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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