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I thought I was covered (with ETA) towing my trailer with a NATO hitch, but NO in the small print it says that a trailer will only be covered if it has a standard 50mm ball hitch. So I haven't renewed it

 

Just tried Brittania Rescue, same applies about a 50mm ball hitch, so Brittania and ETA a no good for me

 

Any ideas which recovery service will cover a vehicle (Land Rover) and Sankey Trailer

 

 

Cheers

Richard

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Hi

 

I thought I was covered (with ETA) towing my trailer with a NATO hitch, but NO in the small print it says that a trailer will only be covered if it has a standard 50mm ball hitch. So I haven't renewed it

Just tried Brittania Rescue, same applies about a 50mm ball hitch, so Brittania and ETA a no good for me

Any ideas which recovery service will cover a vehicle (Land Rover) and Sankey Trailer

Cheers

Richard

 

I'm with Cherished & they sent this out.

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I wonder if it because sometimes the recovery unit is used to recover the trailer using a standard 50mm tow hitch, if most of them saw the nato hitch they would say that they have never seen one in their life.

For example all AA recovery lorries have one fitted, I was recovered when our range rover let us down (again) and I was pulling 2 1/2 tonnes of wood.

 

The Governor.

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I'm with Haggerty - and following a similar experience a few years ago when my Jimmy needed recovering only to be told they couldn't take the Ben Hur trailer - with Hagerty I have separate insurance for my trailer and its contents - and for only a few pounds extra - its also covered under the recovery policy - definitely worth asking the question of your insurers before you find out the hard way !

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Hi

 

Thanks for the inputs

 

Ian - your trailer doesn't look that safe on the back of the recovery truck (I assume it got back safely)

 

My Landrover is my only vehicle that I use every day so I can't get classic insurance for it and thus get the specialised breakdown recovery.

 

The RAC won't cover nor will Carol Nash, so as 'JEMIMA' says it would be a good idea to check out the small print before you get stung for additional costs, but hopefully you never break down.

 

Just tried Cherished and waiting for them to call back... will let you know what they come up with

 

 

Cheers

Richard

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I have to say, most likely as others never took a thought re trailer recovery, you assume you ate okay and they would know, I suppose if you breakdown and need recovery it's an idea to have your total length of tug and trailer as earlier photographs

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Hi

 

Thanks for the inputs

 

Ian - your trailer doesn't look that safe on the back of the recovery truck (I assume it got back safely)

 

My Landrover is my only vehicle that I use every day so I can't get classic insurance for it and thus get the specialised breakdown recovery.

 

The RAC won't cover nor will Carol Nash, so as 'JEMIMA' says it would be a good idea to check out the small print before you get stung for additional costs, but hopefully you never break down.

 

Just tried Cherished and waiting for them to call back... will let you know what they come up with

 

 

Cheers

Richard

 

Hi Richard it was fine, left it hitched to the Morris & he lashed it with wheel straps on both vehicles & strapped the trailer axle down to the rear of the bed.

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No joy from Cherished....

 

My broker couldn't find anything as well.

 

The total length of the vehicle and trailer puts into the 'commercial' recovery world. So starts getting very expensive.

 

Might make something like this

 

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Then I can get cheap breakdown recovery

 

Suggest people check the smallprint

 

Cheers

Richard

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I wonder if it because sometimes the recovery unit is used to recover the trailer using a standard 50mm tow hitch, if most of them saw the nato hitch they would say that they have never seen one in their life.

For example all AA recovery lorries have one fitted, I was recovered when our range rover let us down (again) and I was pulling 2 1/2 tonnes of wood.

 

The Governor.

are you saying all AA vehicles are fitted with a 50mm ball or a nato hitch

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From a recovery operators point of view the nato hitch kicks up a lot of problems. The bulk of the people who are willing to work for the rates offered by the clubs insurance companies are running vehicles that are at their GVW limits with vehicle only. and employ drivers who are not qualified to tow trailers. Hence the clubs have to out source to bigger concerns who who do this every day. But it costs them money hence the reluctance to take on new customers

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If, you can add commuting to a classic car policy (which I hope already covers you for social and domestic use) would that not cover you?

 

I spoke to a recovery vehicle driver from the RAC today and he said that contractors are used for vehicles that they can't recover, so it might be worth you speaking to the RAC again.

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are you saying all AA vehicles are fitted with a 50mm ball or a nato hitch

Every time I broke down in the range rover, and it was recovered, there was a 50 mm tow ball on the back.

If you think about it, most people with trailers and caravans have 50 mm tow balls, so nothing else is necessary, except in our game.

I like the idea of a 50mm tow hitch conversion, that should sort out the problem.

 

The Governor.

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Hi

 

No joy from Cherished....

 

My broker couldn't find anything as well.

 

The total length of the vehicle and trailer puts into the 'commercial' recovery world. So starts getting very expensive.

 

Might make something like this

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=127129&stc=1

 

Then I can get cheap breakdown recovery

 

Suggest people check the smallprint

 

Cheers

Richard

Would this need to have certificates for towing and approval from the insurance company ?

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we wouldn't go down the road with that or anything similar.

from (our) the recovery operators point of view if it failed(and if it did you can guarantee it will take out a minibus full of kids) what are we going to show the insurance company?

first question they will ask is where is the test certificate/inspection paperwork/loler paperwork.

it wont have any i'm sure.

fine to move it a short distance not for an on the road trip i'm afraid.it also looks fine for securing the trailer to the headboard tow ball, then strapped.

you won't believe the regulations that we should ALL be adhering to in this industry.Every chain/strap/deck/piece of equipment needs a regular inspection,certificate and paper trail.

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we wouldn't go down the road with that or anything similar.

from (our) the recovery operators point of view if it failed(and if it did you can guarantee it will take out a minibus full of kids) what are we going to show the insurance company?

first question they will ask is where is the test certificate/inspection paperwork/loler paperwork.

it wont have any i'm sure.

fine to move it a short distance not for an on the road trip i'm afraid.it also looks fine for securing the trailer to the headboard tow ball, then strapped.

you won't believe the regulations that we should ALL be adhering to in this industry.Every chain/strap/deck/piece of equipment needs a regular inspection,certificate and paper trail.

 

Thanks I thought this the case, thinking construction wise we would look at evidence that the bolts used are the ones on the certificate, so all individual parts would need serial numbers etc.

Hadn't thought of this till a site needed to lift a sculpture and the lifting details were inadequate.

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Hi

 

A few points

 

 

  1. The primary intention is to be able to move the trailer to a safe place
  2. Also so that it can be used as an anchor point on a recovery vehicle
  3. I am well aware of the legislation and safety requirements from my work in the arms industry.
  4. For any design I come up with, I will do a full set of stress calculations including shock loading

 

The design shown is off the web and I would not design anything like that, the way the adaptor has been fitted means that the trailer eye could partially rotate. When towing a trailer only one part of the linkage should be able to rotate.

 

Also decided to go for Recovery Breakdown for the vehicle, if they can take the trailer all well and good, if not I will make the trailer secure and collect it later.

 

Cheers

Richard

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The RAC recovered my Landie AND a Sankey the year before last when I lost the engine down in Hampshire. They sent out an RAC recovery unit who loaded the Landie on and tried to hook the Sankey on the back with a special hitch. Unfortunately the Sankey ring was too thick for the hitch and even if it hadn't been the nose would have been way too low. So they sent out another recovery unit to load the Sankey onto. No additional cost either.

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The RAC recovered my Landie AND a Sankey the year before last when I lost the engine down in Hampshire. They sent out an RAC recovery unit who loaded the Landie on and tried to hook the Sankey on the back with a special hitch. Unfortunately the Sankey ring was too thick for the hitch and even if it hadn't been the nose would have been way too low. So they sent out another recovery unit to load the Sankey onto. No additional cost either.

 

Beginning to think when calling recovery, I am with AA, and some car insurers, if broken down I have a trailer as well, NATO hitch, ring diameter xxx, this is larger than civilian round hitchs

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