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    Default Re: Brake dodge WC51/52

    Hello Pete,
    thanks for the advice. I just did a testrun and same hasle. Yesterday adjusted the brake clearence as adviced into 3.5 inch. Checked the left front wheel and it turns freely even after braking. After todays testrun i have the feeling that the piston is not returning completely into the rest possition and by this keeping the lines pressurised. What i will do now is adjust all brakes so the wheels will turn freely and see if i can open those vent holes.
    But give me some time i'm verry bussy at this moment

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    Hello to all,
    finaly found time to check the brake system again. I have removed the master brake cyl. checked the wholes, as mention before. When i did the revision there was also a rubber ring delivered to be put at the end, where the push rod is comming true. Since all the openings where free i had the feeling that the piston could not return completely to the rest possition and due to that one of the openings where half blocked. I have taken out that rubber ring re-installed the brake cyl. Adjusted all the clearens on the brake shoes. For now it looks good, still some air in the system but that will be gone when i have more brake fluid. Was running out of it. When i brake now and release the brakes the wheels are turning straight away freely.
    Hopefully it will be fine now. Thanks to all for helping out with ideas and suggestions.
    Bram

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    Looks like you have got the problem sorted

    thanks for coming back and letting us know the outcome it's useful to for all of us on HMVF as it helps to track down problems and remedies that we may encounter.

    Pete
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    When the work they work well. When they don't AHHHHH!
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    Jeeps posed for pictures Dodges were to busy working. I'm not mad! My voices say I'm sane! And I am not in the pay of Jersey tourisim No longer a 101. Now a Dodge WC54. If there is one thing makes me angry, its all the Incredible Hulk Films!! (Tony Banner)

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    Default Re: Brake dodge WC51/52

    They only thing i wonder is that if the piston is comming back to the rest postion whitout the rubber seal it might be damaged after i while. Maybe i will cut of a small part of the rubber and install it.

    Of course it is normal to give a feed back. We all need info to attack the issues comming with these old vehicles.

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    Well i have tried to bleed the system but somewhere air stays in. Does someone have a good procedure to get it out? When i open de airnipples only fluid is comming out no bubbles. But when braking is spongie. But the good news is that if it brakes its better than before.

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    Default Re: Brake dodge WC51/52

    I have bled Hyd systems From the bleeder before but it is time consuming. You have to make sure that the brake pedal/cylinder is right back. Then start furthest from the reservoir push enough through to pass the T coupling, then go to the other side of the axle push it through to the reservoir. Then do the next closest axle. You must be able to catch the excess coming from the filler. It is usually better to bottom fill radiators the coolant pushes the air out as the system slowly fills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grease monkey View Post
    Well i have tried to bleed the system but somewhere air stays in. Does someone have a good procedure to get it out? When i open de airnipples only fluid is comming out no bubbles. But when braking is spongie. But the good news is that if it brakes its better than before.
    Now stage two Each of the wheels has an inspection plate on the brake drum and four adjusters. Get your feller gauges out and adjust each wheel. THEN click the top adjusters till the wheel stops and back of one notch. Results in brakes that will put you through the windscreen.
    Leading the charge!
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    Default Re: Brake dodge WC51/52

    Hi Tony,

    thats what i did the first time before bleeding the system. I will do it again but it is not so easy to have it done due to the fact that the drums are a little bit oval so when you have adjusted the brakeshoe to the correct level it will hit somewhere the drum. anyway i will start over again with the process and give some slack when its hitting. Front is braking verry well, the dodge is diving so i will start on the back and see what its doing.

    Brdgs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grease monkey View Post
    Hi Tony,

    but it is not so easy to have it done due to the fact that the drums are a little bit oval so when you have adjusted the brakeshoe to the correct level it will hit somewhere the drum.
    Brdgs
    That may well be the root of your adjustment problem, with out of true drums it is not possible to adjust to obtain 100% of available shoe contact and as a result your braking efficiency will be compromised, you may need to think about getting them skimmed.

    Pete
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