flyagi Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Hello gents! I had small problems with the classification of metal cups to Patt58 canteen. Tell me please, at what year stainless cup (8465-99-721-3131 Cup, Canteen, Stainless) was first included in the set of canteen P58? On many forums write, that in the early 1990s, and only for special forces. Is it true? And one more question - In what year did the army began to "official use" a BCB Crusader set light metal / PTFE coated? Best regards, Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 When it comes to webbing and associated accoutrements, Rog Dennis knows his stuff: http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1958/components/equipment/equipment_water_bottles.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchstick Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Print screen from the JSP for drinking implements as at 2013 in regards to the issue of it. From what I've seen in service that's not always adhered to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyagi Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Many thanks for answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC 7RU Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The specification UK/SC/5321 FOR Cup, Water Canteen - PLCE 8465-99-721-3131 was first issued on 15 December 1992 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyagi Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 DMC 7RU Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webkitlover Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hi, just my 2p. There was never a 1958 pattern metal mug, only the Black plastic with metal handle (and uber an rare Green version). There was a metal mug named "85 pattern mug" perhaps this is what you mean? This was produced by Survival Aids around the late 80's before the crusader canteen cup was designed. It was the same shape and size as the Plastic 58" mug, so you could store it the same way in 58" water bottle pouch, it had a removeable plastic rim, to stop burns on the lips, (apposed to the common electric tape option) however the poor manufacturing process left a "wriggly tin" edge in the rim which meant that the plastic rim was not a good fit, and liqyuid would leak which dribbled on to the users chin. A few years later the BCB crusader canteen cup was produced and the "85" dissapeared into the history of "almost but-not quite" design file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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