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Richard,

 

I bow to your vastly superior experience. To be honest, now you make me think about it I'm not sure I'm remembering right.

 

I noted the engine colour when I went to look at it, thinking of this discussion, but I should have reported it immediately I returned. I may be remembering wrong, perhaps led astray by the photo (not withstanding what I say below!). At least I'm not sure enough of my ageing memory to stick to my guns, so I'll withdraw this as a data point!

 

Clive,

 

It looks eau de nil on this screen, but I'm not sure I'd set too much store by looking at images on a computer (despite what I've said immediately above). There's too much opportunity for the colours to be wrong; camera calibration, white balance, colour gamuts, screen calibration and so on.

 

I might try to get a couple of images of known colours so we can see what each other is seeing, as it were.

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Hi Richard, yes; I think the question is more how these things appear on screen and how the paint ages rather than what eau-de-nil and sky blue look like new in the flesh. That engine in your link is definitely eau-de-nil on my screen.

 

hi Sean,

Over the years I have noticed engines such as the Rolls B range in armour, which are in Sky Blue, actually change colour slightly, due to heat, grime, oil, etc no doubt. I was trying to find a photo of another engine I rebuilt and painted in Sky Blue for comparision.

 

Richard

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I think that's definitely the case; to muddy the waters further, the sky blue is (to me) really obviously sky blue when new, and I would say is definitely blue not greenish in colour, but ages greener; while the eau-de-nil ages to a lighter colour closer to an aged sky blue!

 

I did a Google image search to see if I could find any good examples for this discussion; I didn't really come up with anything reliable, but did see a couple of photos of LandRover engines which were said to be, and I think must have been from my experience, sky blue - but looked distinctly green in the photos.

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Sean yes Sky Blue. I ran into this problem when I was writing the last charging article, I had some nice pictures but they turned out too green. With digital I could instantly compare the pics with what I saw before me, so I had to tweak the colour correction to tone the greenish out to get what I could see.

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Data point - see this thread about the NZ CVRT rebuild:

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?56120-Scorpion-Scimitar-Restoration-in-New-Zealand&p=484302#post484302

 

Photos only, but I see these engines as first one OEM red with maybe sky blue traces, other two sky blue.

 

Sean,

The CVR(T) is a Belgian army, they painted their engines a dull red on rebuild,

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Oh OK, hadn't picked that up. Thanks Richard. Are you seeing some small fragments of sky bue on it or is it just my eyes?

 

Incidentally on the OLBC engine colour, the more I think about it the more I think I noted it as sky blue at the time and then had brain fade later, but I can't be sure so can't take it as a point of information.

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Oh OK, hadn't picked that up. Thanks Richard. Are you seeing some small fragments of sky bue on it or is it just my eyes?

 

 

 

hi Sean,

Thought I saw a showing of Sky Blue, as they were that colour from new it is quite possible. The Belgian rebuild colour is like Red Oxide, I remember stripping an engine from a Belgian pre-production Striker once.

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It has been discussed before on HMVF but I had forgotten that the Belgians painted their engines red and that the CVRT and parts in that topic had come from Belgium.

 

I can't recall the 'fresh' colour - am I right in thinking it was about the same as the red oxide on the inside of Perkins engines?

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Whilst researching, I found this at the IWM and, whilst delighted it was at the barracks, Tigne, where in 1963 I went to school and came last in the egg n' spoon race on sports day, I was even more delighted as it shows that everything on this vehicle is Light Stone, yes, sand, sand and more sand. A bit of silver and more sand. Not a sniff of sky blue or eau de nil. Or any other colour!

The vehicle is easy to identify as I saw the description :D though you may struggle, perhaps?

Photo credit IWM website.

Tigne Barracks Wksp REME Malta 1963-Photo credit IWM.jpg

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