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    Default A Riddle............................................

    For the last two years I have been researching and gathering fact based evidence for the most important project I have ever undertaken as a collector of Artillery.

    This is for the Hardcore Artillery enthusiast,Gentleman I give you this ..........................................


    G & J WEIR LTD.


    Rob................................rnixartillery

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnixartillery View Post
    For the last two years I have been researching and gathering fact based evidence for the most important project I have ever undertaken as a collector of Artillery.

    This is for the Hardcore Artillery enthusiast,Gentleman I give you this ..........................................


    G & J WEIR LTD.

    Rob,

    Pump makers, they made 25 pounder field guns among other military items, inc aircraft in WW1 and experimental helicopter in WW2
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    Yes indeed , that what 's written on my i d plate of my 25 Pr gun. Very few people seem to be aware of that company around here,
    " If I've seen further than others, it's by standing upon the shoulders of giants " (I. N.)

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    Default Re: A Riddle............................................

    As far as I'm aware, Weirs are still in business manufacturing pumps for the MOD and others.

    Andy

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    Well you're in the wrong place then ....

    If you look for Weirs Pumps, Cathcart, Glasgow there should be more info that you could possibly need. I'm sure they'll have a historical records section somewhere.

    Their basic production was pumps at the Cathcart plant - for example all the pumps on the RAF refuellers like the Thompson Brothers and Bedford refuellers with the Zwicky booms, but they also did huge amounts of other equipment and would have been full time on military production throughout the war. Lots of production for naval ships and so on too, given the proximity to Clydebank.

    If you wanted a centrifugal or reciprocating pump, you went to Weirs, while dog-bone compressor pumps all came from Mirrlees and fans from Howdens - all within walking distance of each other if you could put up with the Glasgow rain.

    I wouldn't have expected them to be tooled-up for gun barrels, but receiver frames, carriages, platforms, etc would be well within their machine shop capacity.

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    Default Re: A Riddle............................................

    A bit about Weir's here..
    Household Cavalry Pageant & TA100 Pageant Fox CVR(W) Driver
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    You are all Quite right with your comments but heading down the wrong pipeline.

    25 pounder,could you post the date and reg no stamped on the carriage plate on your Gun,it may start with the letters CA.

    Gordon,you are correct.Weirs did not produce the Ordnance but manufactured carriages,recuperators and other componants.



    Rob..............................rnixartillery.
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    OK Rob, a bit of pipeline direction then?

    I've worked in all those places but not that recently. I believe Cathcart is about to become a housing estate - may be already

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnixartillery View Post
    You are all Quite right with your comments but heading down the wrong pipeline.
    Rob,

    Anything to do with Project Babylon ?
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    Default Re: A Riddle............................................

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Farrant View Post
    Rob,

    Anything to do with Project Babylon ?
    Richard,

    Great thought but I think useing the word pipeline in my earlier post was not very apt,although I wouldn't mind a piece of the 'Super gun' in my collection !

    According to weir's wartime production history they started in 1940 producing 40 25 pdr carriages per month with production of 'other' componants alongside.by 1942 they were upto 180 carriages a month but oddly they seem to have ceased all carriage production by the end of 1943 and no reason explaining why and what they made as an alternative.


    This info does lead somewhere but I have to unravel it veeeery slowly as I am still in the process of tying loose ends.


    Rob.......................rnixartillery.

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