ajmac Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 The Tank Museum part of the forum can be rather quite, more posts please! Anyway.... Following Jacks 'AA....' post, I would like to ask the museum if they would consider, or have considered the restoration of 104 to it's own power for display as Tankfest. Exactly what IS missing from the drive train, do we have any internal photos of 104? On a similar note, why does the PzIII make such regular outings yet the PzIV is a dead duck....does it have major components broken or missing? C'mon Jack you're the fascilitator between all these collections / organisations, KingTiger back on the road* 2020? *unadopted roads of course, we wouldn't want to damage the tarmac;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 The Tank Museum part of the forum can be rather quite, more posts please! Anyway.... Following Jacks 'AA....' post, I would like to ask the museum if they would consider, or have considered the restoration of 104 to it's own power for display as Tankfest. Exactly what IS missing from the drive train, do we have any internal photos of 104? On a similar note, why does the PzIII make such regular outings yet the PzIV is a dead duck....does it have major components broken or missing? C'mon Jack you're the fascilitator between all these collections / organisations, KingTiger back on the road* 2020? *unadopted roads of course, we wouldn't want to damage the tarmac Yep! Your nuts but have to agree with the concept. Tiger and the 104 - now that would be something. - I best not mention Kevin Wheatcrofts - Elefant - Panzerjäger Tiger then :coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 I best not mention Kevin Wheatcrofts - Elefant - Panzerjäger Tiger then :coffee: Look we need to get on top of this lack of forum etiquette Jack, this name dropping is getting out of hand, I'll call in at Newark next month and you can tell me all about it. I'll bring you some bottled water and an energy bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Look we need to get on top of this lack of forum etiquette Jack, this name dropping is getting out of hand, I'll call in at Newark next month and you can tell me all about it. I'll bring you some bottled water and an energy bar. I haven't mention my name!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 - I best not mention Kevin Wheatcrofts - Elefant - Panzerjäger Tiger then :coffee: He's got a WHAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I believe that 104 is missing engine & transmission. I have a vague memory, of photos of its engine bay, being posted on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 There was a thread a while back about 104, but I don't remember any photos, I would be interested in the Museums opinion (or John P if he has had a look around inside it) on what is missing. I would imagine that the engine is less difficult to find than the gearbox. If I remember the thread we went around the possibilities of the KingTiger in Belgium that still has it's drive train and engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 He's got a WHAT? Best not mention his Hurricane then :coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Best not mention his Hurricane then :coffee: Oh, they're common as muck mate! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hawker_Hurricane_survivors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Oh, they're common as muck mate! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hawker_Hurricane_survivors OK - best not mention his pushbike then...........:blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pearson Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 There was a thread a while back about 104, but I don't remember any photos, I would be interested in the Museums opinion (or John P if he has had a look around inside it) on what is missing. I would imagine that the engine is less difficult to find than the gearbox. If I remember the thread we went around the possibilities of the KingTiger in Belgium that still has it's drive train and engine. Sorry, can't help. Never looked inside either of Bovy's Tiger II's. I think both are hollow so far as engine/transmission are concerned but not certain. If you want to see one move though, it would be cheaper to take a coach trip of interested parties to Saumur than to get either of Bovy's running. I would rather any available money was spent elsewhere personally - Whippet maybe - or for a smaller sum, return their latest Grizzly gate guardian to running condition? Anyone got any spare tickets to Saumur's 'Carousel' show????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 Despite liking the idea of seeing a Tiger II at the museum, I have to agree with John, it is the nations tank museum after all. Where is the Sherman 75mm and the Cromwell, not to mention a Firefly at TankFest? Money Money Money I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Despite liking the idea of seeing a Tiger II at the museum, I have to agree with John, it is the nations tank museum after all. Where is the Sherman 75mm and the Cromwell, not to mention a Firefly at TankFest? Money Money Money I suppose. Panzerporn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The photographer Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Hi guys the inside looks like this its empty needs lots and lots to fill the space before it can run best regards Guy M Evans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northrecce Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 So the story i was told in 84 at the age of 14 about the commanders body being concreted in the engine bay was a lie :shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammell4199 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 What is there, looks in quite good nick. Whats that drive flange i see, part of the transmission? Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The photographer Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 hi again, The drive flange is part of the turet Drive system the experts can explain whats whats,,, Correct the interior is in good condition as you would expect from the Tank museum, however its bare there is no transmission and most internal fittings are missing, the turret however a complete contrast and is almost totally complete. The other tiger II is as bare all over as well including the turret, Btw the belgium king tiger 132 is also in the same condition no engine and no transmission most bits missing. does any one out there have any pictures of the internals of the othe kings around the world,,,,? regards G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorLarkum Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 does any one out there have any pictures of the internals of the othe kings around the world,,,,? This is what I have on the one at Full, maybe it can help: Unique ID 219: Tiger II at Full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Btw the belgium king tiger 132 is also in the same condition no engine and no transmission most bits missing.G Do you mean 213? The one in La Gleize? It has the enigine in it by the looks of it. Although its been damaged a few years back by a fireworks bomb? It leaked oil in 2009 from the hole in the belly plate under the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The photographer Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 This is what I have on the one at Full, maybe it can help: Unique ID 219: Tiger II at Full[ thats cool Tevor thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The photographer Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 hi all yes I do mean the la Gleize 213 Kt anyone have pictures of the in side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Am I mad or did the engine in Tiger 131 not come from one of the King Tigers...? I searched for a previous thread on this but couldn't find it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 hi all yes I do mean the la Gleize 213 Kt anyone have pictures of the in side Here you go,inside of the turret, taken by me. Engine, seen from underneath; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond-t-steve Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I like the gun stabliser hardware....Is that still clasified top secret ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The photographer Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Now thats awsome cool, more please :-D The engine looks like its missing the bottom of the crank case is that a rusty big end we are looking at and crank shaft , so there is an engine in there and looking at what the weatcroft collection can do, there is a possibility of a restored engine. well maybe given loads of cash that is. This may also explain why there was a mass oil leak some time ago and yes timbo your correct that the engine was donated to Tiger 131 as it was an easier engine to fix was less troublesome and available (I think that the engine from 131 was sectioned years ago by the royal engineers not sure of the regiment but sectioning was done) I do have to say one thing is it not strange that something so bad and a symbol of death and destruction can turn to something so good as in a major tourist attraction, a study piece for modern engineers and given the funds a working living wonder) I have pictures of 300 then (battle of the bulge casualty and pre battle with german engineers) and now at Bov do any of you know where tiger II 104 was taken. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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