Mark Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Well I did not know what topic to put this in but I thought it was a "gobsmacking" stastitic that i did not realise, so I wanted to share this information, it made me think Statistics of World War II Including the European and Pacific Theaters Countries Total Deaths % of Prewar Population Military Deaths Civilian Deaths USSR 20,600,000 0.4% 13,600,000 7,000,000 CHINA 10,000,000 2.0% GERMANY 6,850,000 9.5% 3,250,000 3,600,000 POLAND 6,123,000 17.2% 123,000 6,000,000 JAPAN 2,000,000 2.7% YUGOSLAVIA 1,706,000 10.9% FRANCE 810,000 1.9% 340,000 470,000 GREECE 520,000 7.2% UNITED STATES 500,000 0.4% 500,000 AUSTRIA 480,000 7.2% ROMANIA 460,000 3.4% HUNGARY 420,000 3.0% ITALY 410,000 0.9% 330,000 80,000 CZECHOSLOVAKIA 400,000 2.7% GREAT BRITAIN 388,000 0.8% 326,000 62,000 NETHERLANDS 210,000 2.4% 198,000 12,000 BELGIUM 88,000 1.1% 76,000 12,000 FINLAND 84,000 2.2% AUSTRALIA 39,000 0.3% CANADA 34,000 0.3% ALBANIA 28,000 2.5% INDIA 24,000 0.01% NORWAY 10,262 0.3% NEW ZEALAND 10,000 0.6% LUXEMBOURG 5,000 1.7% TOTAL 52,199,262 One does not realise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Looks like Johnny Foreigner's been fiddling his figures again ! When did all those French civilian casualties arise ? Are we sure that they don't include the Normandy farmers who had heart attacks when Churchill A.V.R.E.s were driven through their apple orchards ? Of all wars, 39-45 presents probably the most problems in distinguishing those lost to enemy action from those who perished as a result of occupation. Wasn't (Vichy) France, for instance, officially at peace with Germany from 1940 ? Did they really loose more military dead during May and June 1940 in France and Belgium (and afterwards in limited numbers elsewhere) than Britain did in six years of war, fighting in all theatres ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 They do seem rather high, especially when compared to others.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Do they include those deported to the death camps perhaps????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/h-statistics.htm Country Initial Jewish Population Estimated % Killed Estimated Killed Number of Survivors POLAND 3,300,000 91% 3,000,000 300,000 USSR 3,020,000 36% 1,100,000 1,920,000 HUNGARY 800,000 74% 596,000 204,000 GERMANY 566,000 36% 200,000 366,000 FRANCE 350,000 22% 77,320 272,680 ROMANIA 342,000 84% 287,000 55,000 AUSTRIA 185,000 35% 65,000 120,000 LITHUANIA 168,000 85% 143,000 25,000 NETHERLANDS 140,000 71% 100,000 40,000 BOHEMIA MORAVIA 118,310 60% 71,150 47,160 LATVIA 95,000 84% 80,000 15,000 SLOVAKIA 88,950 80% 71,000 17,950 YUGOSLAVIA 78,000 81% 63,300 14,700 GREECE 77,380 87% 67,000 10,380 BELGIUM 65,700 45% 28,900 36,800 ITALY 44,500 17% 7,680 36,820 BULGARIA 50,000 0% 50,000 DENMARK 7,800 .8% 60 7,740 ESTONIA 4,500 44% 2,000 2,500 LUXEMBOURG 3,500 55% 1,950 1,550 FINLAND 2,000 .03% 7 1,993 NORWAY 1,700 45% 762 938 TOTAL 9,508,340 63% 5,962,129 3,546,211 Here are more (and different) statistics: http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW2/statistics.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 Is'nt it wierd how statistics can't be accurate however hard you try :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 "There are lies, damned lies - and then there are statistics!" Can't recall who said that though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 Errr!!You :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Wish I could calim the credit but alas no - it was not I!!! For some reason Churchills's name springs to mind but I'm not so sure it was him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I'm sure it was an American but can't remember the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 That quatation was nagging me so I Googled it, Mark Twain was the person Iwas thinking of but although it has been commonly attributed to him amongst others the University of York Maths dept has been researching it and it appears to come from an earlier period. They now attribute it to a woman I and probably no one else on this forum has ever heard of but having read their discourse on the subject it looks to me as if it has been around for much longer than is generally thought and the woman is merely quoting an earlier author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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