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antarmike
09-11-2008, 19:09
Well I like them, does anyone else like them enough to post some photos.
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/09-11-2008185447.jpg
20 ton low loading trailer by Crane. Ex Royal engineers.

antarmike
09-11-2008, 19:12
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/09-11-2008185628.jpg
Gary Grysa had just bought it from Antar Owner Mike Pickup in Suffolk, and we were ready for the off, We got pulled by the rozzers for this one...

the conversation began something like this

" We just had to stop you, everone is talking about you on the radio. That's a nice old truck, isn't it, but I was just wondering why there doesn't appear to be a ministry plate on the trailer, Is it currently tested?..."

Just what you need on a nice Sunday morning....

antarmike
09-11-2008, 19:15
Finally found the Registration of my old 10 ton light recovery trailer...00 DE 67.
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/09-11-2008190234.jpg
Does anyone know where this trailer is now?

6 X 6
09-11-2008, 20:03
20 ton low loading trailer by Crane. Ex Royal engineers.

Not a very clear view of the trailer but shown here with a Scammell Constructor.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc002473e5.jpg

6 X 6
09-11-2008, 20:06
Can anyone identify these two trailers ?

'Photo A.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0022a0f9.jpg

'Photo B.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00031370.jpg

les freathy
09-11-2008, 20:11
Agree on that Mike i like em an all heres a photo of the same type of trailer when in service with the Royal Engineers in the 1950s towed by a Mack no. The second is a Dyson or crane 40 ton transporter trailer

antarmike
09-11-2008, 20:14
Can anyone identify these two trailers ?

'Photo A.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0022a0f9.jpg

'Photo B.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00031370.jpg

Photo A is Rubery owen 10 ton light recovery trailer. (see Grumpy goes off raod thread) and see my post above regarding 00 DE 67

Photo B Crane Fruehauf 62 ton trailer behing Scammell Commander??

ekawrecker
09-11-2008, 21:10
This is I believe a 'Bridge Launching Trailer' made by Cranes of Dereham. Has anybody got anymore info/pictures on them?

mcspool
09-11-2008, 21:59
Great stuff guys,

but how about some pics of the Queen Mother Of All Trailers, the Queen Mary?

Thanks,
Hanno

6 X 6
09-11-2008, 22:11
Great stuff guys,

but how about some pics of the Queen Mother Of All Trailers, the Queen Mary?

Thanks,
Hanno

Here's one to be going on with........

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000dd86b.jpg

sirhc
09-11-2008, 22:15
Were the Queen Mary trailers ever built as or converted to anything else? Internally this one looked to have a fairly professional conversion, and since it still lives in the corner of a ww2 bomber station, I suspect it's never had a civilian owner?

Chris

N.O.S.
09-11-2008, 22:18
Here's one to be going on with........


TRAILERS, not TEA ROOMS.....

6 X 6
09-11-2008, 22:29
TRAILERS, not TEA ROOMS.....

Fancy a cuppa ?

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000e9e56.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000eae5f.jpg

N.O.S.
09-11-2008, 22:32
Priceless pictures, thanks!

Richard Farrant
09-11-2008, 22:41
This is I believe a 'Bridge Launching Trailer' made by Cranes of Dereham. Has anybody got anymore info/pictures on them?

It is as you say a bridge launching trailer, which would have been used with a Scammell Crusader ( looks like one attached to trailer in your photo). It was used to carry and deploy a No.9 bridge which is of one piece and maximum span of 12.2 metres. It would be used directly over an existing low classifiction bridge. The other version of this bridge is the no.8 which is folding and was carried and deployed on a Cheiftain AVLB.

6 X 6
09-11-2008, 22:43
Priceless pictures, thanks!

Not just pictures mate. I own this ****ing thing. It may be for sale and would look very good towed behind your Constructor. Think about it. Open to offers.

N.O.S.
09-11-2008, 22:45
But where are you going to live, then?

6 X 6
09-11-2008, 22:47
But where are you going to live, then?

Well, I'd assumed I come with it as the lodger.

Richard Farrant
09-11-2008, 22:50
Not just pictures mate. I own this ****ing thing. It may be for sale and would look very good towed behind your Constructor. Think about it. Open to offers.

:idea:
Bodger Baz has a Bedford OX tractor unit, just the job to hitch up to that !

N.O.S.
09-11-2008, 22:52
In all seriousness, 6x6, I imagine the trailer will have survived very well underneath that lot - the last couple I've seen have been a bit on the 'tender' side.

catweazle
09-11-2008, 22:56
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii109/jtrafford/CAV090eastkirby.jpg

6 X 6
09-11-2008, 23:02
In all seriousness, 6x6, I imagine the trailer will have survived very well underneath that lot - the last couple I've seen have been a bit on the 'tender' side.

Still available..........could be delivered. Dry stored since 1947. 5 tonner as in Catweazle's 'photo above.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00101566.jpg

N.O.S.
09-11-2008, 23:27
Mobile HMVF Clubhouse to go behind Jack's Autocar maybe?

catweazle
09-11-2008, 23:30
Mobile HMVF Clubhouse to go behind Jack's Autocar maybe?
Brilliant idea,:cool2:

Stormin
10-11-2008, 09:18
Mobile HMVF Clubhouse to go behind Jack's Autocar maybe?

Just need to sort him out with the Autocar now then.

6 X 6
10-11-2008, 21:46
Were the Queen Mary trailers ever built as or converted to anything else? Internally this one looked to have a fairly professional conversion, and since it still lives in the corner of a ww2 bomber station, I suspect it's never had a civilian owner?

Chris

Some while ago a came across what, if I remember rightly, was an aviation forum where the QM you illustrate in your post was discussed. I seem to think it was said there were two such trailers at the same site and a few 'photos of the interior had been posted. If I can find the website again I'll post a link on here.

In answer to your enquiry "were the QM trailers ever built or converted to anything else ?" here's a Mass Radiography unit built on the 3 ton version of Tasker Queen Mary.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0006cb8e.jpg

Front view.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0006cb8e01.jpg

Rear View.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0006cb8e02.jpg

6 X 6
10-11-2008, 22:00
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0004632b.jpg

6 X 6
10-11-2008, 22:26
Lancaster "T for Tilly" being dismantled after crash landing in 1943.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0006f695.jpg

N/S (!) wing being loaded onto a Queen Mary.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000721ad.jpg

The entire aircraft being transported by a convoy of Queen Mary trailers drawn by a Bedford OXC in the foreground and Commer Q2's following.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00072f80.jpg

Being repaired at it's home aerodrome.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00074619.jpg

Back in service.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0007591d.jpg

6 X 6
10-11-2008, 22:51
Two for Snapper.

Tasker 7 ton drop frame photographic trailer.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000c9883.jpg

Tasker 8 ton photographic trailer.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000cb5ad.jpg

mcspool
11-11-2008, 09:28
Wow gents, excellent pics of the Queen Mary trailer! One of the most typical trailers, maybe even typical British, that "Baily bridge on wheels"!

Here in Holland there's one on the show circuit, carrying a Harvard fuselage. Tractive unit is a long-nosed Commer (Q2?).

Cheers,
Hanno

mcspool
11-11-2008, 09:31
In all seriousness, 6x6, I imagine the trailer will have survived very well underneath that lot - the last couple I've seen have been a bit on the 'tender' side.

Like this? http://airfields.fotopic.net/p49286333.html

H.

N.O.S.
11-11-2008, 09:58
Yep, that's the most recent one I've seen! Keeping a certain Cletrac company....

I wonder if anything will be done to it - I could do with the US bogie in front :cool2:

mcspool
11-11-2008, 10:33
I understand the official nomenclature was "Semi-Trailer, 5 Ton, Long Low Loading".

So they came in two weight classes (3 and 5 ton)? It looks like the 3 ton version was a shortened 5 ton trailer? Thatīs what it looks like in the pictures.

Were they built by any other manufacturers than Tasker?

Thanks,
Hanno

6 X 6
11-11-2008, 16:41
Tractive unit is a long-nosed Commer (Q2?).
Cheers,
Hanno

The three tractor units most closely associated with the Tasker "Queen Mary" trailer during WW11 were these.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0009e4c4.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0007e27e.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000ce82d.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0007a6ce.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000b4864.jpg

See Catweasle's post No.21 on this thread for a photograph of this type of Bedford.

ted angus
11-11-2008, 16:58
I understand the official nomenclature was "Semi-Trailer, 5 Ton, Long Low Loading".

So they came in two weight classes (3 and 5 ton)? It looks like the 3 ton version was a shortened 5 ton trailer? Thatīs what it looks like in the pictures.

Were they built by any other manufacturers than Tasker?

Thanks,
Hanno

The 3 ton was the original, the 5 ton was slightly longer the main recognition point is behind the wheels . The X ray unit had quite a lot removed from behind the wheels.
Only Tasker made them during WW2. I believe the current manufacturer is KING ?/
The Bedford and Commer were the original tractors, the Crossley plus a later model Crossley and a later bonneted Commer were introduced to cope with the 5 ton trailer. But it is apparent all tractors were used with both size trailers.
This is a great thread thanks for everyone for sharing.
regards TED

ted angus
11-11-2008, 17:03
I understand the official nomenclature was "Semi-Trailer, 5 Ton, Long Low Loading".

So they came in two weight classes (3 and 5 ton)? It looks like the 3 ton version was a shortened 5 ton trailer? Thatīs what it looks like in the pictures.

Were they built by any other manufacturers than Tasker?

Thanks,
Hanno

Should have said the nomenclature was Semi -trailer low platform 3 or 5 ton 2 wheel.
A semi trailer 5 ton long low loading is the type that normally has removeable rear bogies and is then lowered to the floor to facilitate loading etc.
regards TED

antarmike
11-11-2008, 17:18
Excuse me for reposting this one...
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/Queen20Mary20and20Hut.jpg

ted angus
11-11-2008, 17:23
Should have said the nomenclature was Semi -trailer low platform 3 or 5 ton 2 wheel.
A semi trailer 5 ton long low loading is the type that normally has removeable rear bogies and is then lowered to the floor to facilitate loading etc.
regards TED

Hanno apologies you were correct semi trailer 3 or 5 ton long low loader is correct the nomenclature was revised post WW2 to become low platform Sorry
TED

6 X 6
11-11-2008, 17:33
Post war Bedford 'S' type tractor with Spitfire on board.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000fa7ed.jpg

And with Hawker Hurricane.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000f894b.jpg

6 X 6
11-11-2008, 18:11
Hanno apologies you were correct semi trailer 3 or 5 ton long low loader is correct the nomenclature was revised post WW2 to become low platform Sorry
TED

This refers to "supporting aircraft main planes in transit" and "well type body" so I think we can assume it is a description of the "Queen Mary" type. The length of this 3 ton trailer is given as 40' which is the same length as the 5 ton version. (?) I always understood the 3 tonner was a bit shorter. And it is, just remembered the 5 ton QM has a body length of 40' ....45' overall. (I think).

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc001123ad.jpg

PS. Lot of the stuff I'm currently posting is still 'Restricted' so don't go flashing it around down at your local Tescos.

6 X 6
11-11-2008, 18:29
What a wonderful exhibit this would make at any show complete with a class of long legged schoolgirls. (Obviously, they'd have to be over the age of consent)

Tasker semi-trailer, 8 ton, drop frame, Tasker coupling.
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00128a3b.jpg

ekawrecker
11-11-2008, 19:46
It is as you say a bridge launching trailer, which would have been used with a Scammell Crusader ( looks like one attached to trailer in your photo). It was used to carry and deploy a No.9 bridge which is of one piece and maximum span of 12.2 metres. It would be used directly over an existing low classifiction bridge. The other version of this bridge is the no.8 which is folding and was carried and deployed on a Cheiftain AVLB.
Thanks for the info Richard, it is indeed attached to a Scammell Crusader. I hope someone posts a picture of the loaded outfit as it was seen in service. It must have been quite a sight!

Richard Farrant
11-11-2008, 20:23
I hope someone posts a picture of the loaded outfit as it was seen in service. It must have been quite a sight!

Your wish is granted :), picture attached. My old memory has just kicked in and I seem to think that the Crusaders assigned to these trailers had extra hydraulic controls and outputs fitted, as I recollect, for the trailer.

Runflat
11-11-2008, 20:46
Were the Queen Mary trailers ever built as or converted to anything else? Internally this one looked to have a fairly professional conversion, and since it still lives in the corner of a ww2 bomber station, I suspect it's never had a civilian owner?

Chris

More on this one here: http://www.rafmtd.co.uk/restoration/restoration.html

N.O.S.
11-11-2008, 20:55
If you look on Witham's direct sales website under trailers, you'll see the modern equivalent of the Queen Mary - nothing much has changed!!!

sirhc
11-11-2008, 21:01
More on this one here: http://www.rafmtd.co.uk/restoration/restoration.html

Yes, that's the one. I was there trying to salvage a hangar which had been blown down, with a view to using the bits to build a shed to keep our vehicles in. In the end the hangar fell apart, and what was left blew into another field, so it never worked out!

catweazle
11-11-2008, 21:34
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii109/jtrafford/7regtrct80senelager1980.jpg

younggun
11-11-2008, 22:12
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii109/jtrafford/7regtrct80senelager1980.jpg

the hmvf club house car park if antars where as cheep as jeeps to run

6 X 6
11-11-2008, 22:31
if antars where as cheep as jeeps to run

and would fit in a lock up garage.

6 X 6
12-11-2008, 18:22
Can anyone identify the type of aircraft being carried ?

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/queenmary.jpg

antarmike
12-11-2008, 18:30
Looks a bit P-47 Thunderbolt to me....

6 X 6
12-11-2008, 20:07
Looks a bit P-47 Thunderbolt to me....

It's certainly got quite a bulbous cowling. This isn't one of those quizzes. I'm asking because I'd be interested to know.

chevpol
12-11-2008, 20:37
Hawker Fury?

Mark

ekawrecker
12-11-2008, 21:17
Your wish is granted :), picture attached. My old memory has just kicked in and I seem to think that the Crusaders assigned to these trailers had extra hydraulic controls and outputs fitted, as I recollect, for the trailer.
Thanks Richard, Wishes do come true!:tup::

Just a guess, but did these trailers start off life being pulled by Scammell Constructor tractor units?

6 X 6
12-11-2008, 21:21
Just a guess, but did these trailers start off life being pulled by Scammell Constructor tractor units?

Now that would look good. Did they ?

Richard Farrant
12-11-2008, 21:24
Just a guess, but did these trailers start off life being pulled by Scammell Constructor tractor units?

It is possible, I don't know when this trailer came into service, but the Crusader replaced the Constructors about 1976.

ekawrecker
12-11-2008, 21:31
It is possible, I don't know when this trailer came into service, but the Crusader replaced the Constructors about 1976.
It is made by Cranes of Dereham, rather than Crane Fruehauf, which makes it much earlier than any Crusader. From memory the trailer army reg was 00BL19 or 00DL19. (I lost the picture I took of the plate!!)

Richard Farrant
12-11-2008, 21:43
It is made by Cranes of Dereham, rather than Crane Fruehauf, which makes it much earlier than any Crusader. From memory the trailer army reg was 00BL19 or 00DL19. (I lost the picture I took of the plate!!)

OK, more likely DL then which would make it around early Sixties. I think it is an adaption of the existing RE Plant trailer.

les freathy
12-11-2008, 22:41
This should anwser your questions

Richard Farrant
12-11-2008, 22:43
This should anwser your questions


:tup:: cheers Les

6 X 6
12-11-2008, 22:59
This should anwser your questions

Brillant ! Thanks Les. It's a pity you're not running the country Les.......it would be a very much better place if you were.

6 X 6
13-11-2008, 02:01
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc003c5215-1.jpg

Roland
13-11-2008, 07:50
A little movie about our british MV collection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR28C2sKsyw

shows 10TonTiltTrailer (TTT) with AEC Militant, Reme-Sankey w. LR109 and 2axle (24ton) lowloader w. Scammell Crusader.

Brooky
13-11-2008, 08:09
A picture of a preserved Commer Q2.
I believe the owner has a trailer to go with it. It lives in North Cumbria

antarmike
13-11-2008, 08:24
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/09-11-2008191643.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/09-11-2008191815.jpg
Airfield control caravans at Newark Air museum...What are they? where did they come from?

6 X 6
13-11-2008, 17:37
A little movie about our british MV collection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR28C2sKsyw

shows 10TonTiltTrailer (TTT) with AEC Militant, Reme-Sankey w. LR109 and 2axle (24ton) lowloader w. Scammell Crusader.

A very interesting video, thanks Roland. It would be nice to see a few photographs of the AEC on the Militant thread sometime. Are you able to find spare parts, if needed, for the Militant in Germany ? So many were based there, are there any left in Germany in ex.military surplus yards ? Cheers.

6 X 6
13-11-2008, 18:36
A picture of a preserved Commer Q2.
I believe the owner has a trailer to go with it. It lives in North Cumbria

Brooky, thanks for posting the picture. That's a really pretty lorry but like the Bedford OXC it doesn't, to me, look man enough to tow a laden "Queen Mary" trailer. Imagine driving this Commer up a steep hill on a hot summers day with a QM and Lancaster Bomber fuselage section on the back.

Here's the same Commer type 'Q' tractor shown coupled to a Tasker Short High Loading trailer.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00466353.jpg

And, believe it or not...here coupled to a Tasker Long High Loading trailer.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0046635301.jpg

(What did you do in the war Dad ? "Oh, thinking up trailer discriptions down at the Tasker factory....it was hard work but someone had to do it")

ted angus
13-11-2008, 21:05
Many thanks for sharing these, I believe one was a 20ft platform the other a 33ft. . For the vehicle modellers both versions are currently obtainable the 20ft from Wespe (often on E bay) the 33 ft from MMS.

6x6 could I ask a favour please, at thread 34 you posted extracts from the data book re the Commer and the Crossley tractors do you have the second page of text for them please ??
On Pathe there are 3 items on the Coronation review in 1953 of the RAF, if you go to Pathe home page; click advanced search, on the new screen enter in Film ID 106 then scroll down to Film 106-11 change the viewing setting to 1 frame per second then look at frame 332 where you will see the X ray trailer, at Frame 338 is a fire fighting training classroom trailer.
I have refrained from posting due to the huge copyright sticker on each !!
regards TED

mcspool
13-11-2008, 21:19
Just found two pictures of Dutch trailers, obviously copied from Taskerīs Queen Mary. Go to http://members.home.nl/v.roosmalen/pages/geschiedenis_tropco.html and scroll down for a pic of one behind a 1953 Bedford tractor and one behind a 1962 DAF.

H.

6 X 6
13-11-2008, 21:37
Blimey Ted, I didn't realize anyone was actually looking at any of this stuff.
I'll post the data sheets you have requested later this evening.

ekawrecker
13-11-2008, 21:43
This should anwser your questions

Thanks very much Les and Richard.:tup::

ted angus
13-11-2008, 22:23
Blimey Ted, I didn't realize anyone was actually looking at any of this stuff.
I'll post the data sheets you have requested later this evening. I'm only posting this picture below very briefly and will delete it in about an hours time.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0051f695.jpg

You must be kidding its keeping me awake at night dreaming about it !!

HAVE you looked in the RAF MT drivers web site some great stuff . compulsory really !! you can see the thumbnails, but you have to subscribe it about Ģ10 to see it in full. AS an enthusiast I am sure the site owner Ian Scales will welcome your membership. Les is a member .
Have a look at that Pathe site some good stuff on there. In addition to my Gipsy and WW2 trailer pump I have about 500 models, NFS, post 1948 AFS and RAF softskins are my pet subject I suppose after 39 years in the RAF the latter is compulsory.
regards TED
regards TED

6 X 6
13-11-2008, 22:41
You must be kidding its keeping me awake at night dreaming about it !!
regards TED
regards TED

Hi Ted, it's only the copyright issue. I don't mind infringing so called Crown Copyright but because this picture is the work of a living artist ...... anyway it looks wonderful on your post. I'm still trying to get these data sheets in order and will post in the next few hours. Many thanks for your website suggestions, I'll be following them up. Now these data sheets.....

http://www.raf-lichfield.co.uk/No%202%20M.T%20Gallery.htm

6 X 6
13-11-2008, 23:28
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0007a6ce.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00569eeb.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0056cc4c.jpg

6 X 6
13-11-2008, 23:31
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc000b4864.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0057353d.jpg

6 X 6
13-11-2008, 23:33
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00577ccc.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00578efd.jpg

6 X 6
13-11-2008, 23:34
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0007e27e.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0009e4c4.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0057e50b.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0058030f.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc00583555.jpg

ted angus
13-11-2008, 23:54
You are a Gentleman Sir Thank You.
The 10ft wheelbase Commer will be the later one with the Bonnet. The attaced is borrowed from one of Bart's bibles the photo is from the Victory parade Another item that is featured on Pathe,
Thanks again I will get these all printed and into my bedtime reading book !
regards TED

6 X 6
14-11-2008, 00:08
You are most welcome. Thank you for the many interesting posts you have put on this forum. Very much appreciated.

ted angus
14-11-2008, 01:00
I believe the attached is another view of the short trailer in message 67 see the door marking ??

TEd

Roland
14-11-2008, 07:08
6x6 wrote:
A very interesting video, thanks Roland. It would be nice to see a few photographs of the AEC on the Militant thread sometime. Are you able to find spare parts, if needed, for the Militant in Germany ? So many were based there, are there any left in Germany in ex.military surplus yards ? Cheers.

Our (Fliegerhorstmuseum Leipheim - Airbase museum) Militant is the last remain AEC Mk.1 in Germany. No other around! Ex. military surplus yards are only with US-MVīs here . British vehicles were bought by belgium and netherlands dealers. Germans never had much interests with british MV,s. (because the steering-wheel is at the wrong side ;-) )
Spares we search and get in UK if available. Since 1994 we own the Militant. A stuck fuelpipe and a brocken aircompressor were the only major failures in that time. Itīs a really workhorse!

6 X 6
16-11-2008, 21:09
Since 1994 we own the Militant. Itīs a really workhorse!

Roland, thank you for such an interesting reply. The Militant is a real favourite of mine and a wonderful lorry out on the road. Let me know if you ever have problems finding spares. Looking forward to seeing a few 'photos of this A.E.C. on the Militant thread.

6 X 6
16-11-2008, 21:10
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc0072e723.jpg

AndyFowler
17-11-2008, 19:38
Here is the Queen Mary aircraft recovery unit driven by my Great Uncle Ron in North Africa !

antar
17-11-2008, 22:48
the hmvf club house car park if antars where as cheep as jeeps to run
Please do not put jeeps in the same sentence as ANTAR'S !!!

Tony B
17-11-2008, 22:49
You need wheel chocks don't you?

6 X 6
19-11-2008, 20:05
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/09-11-2008191643.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/09-11-2008191815.jpg
Airfield control caravans at Newark Air museum...What are they? where did they come from?

We give up.......what are they and where did they come ? I think you might have to tell us. Thanks.

Metroman
19-11-2008, 20:20
Hi all..

I've been offered a Kraz 255 unit with 20t trailer what do I need to know!, looking to move the 434 with it.

Phil

antarmike
22-11-2008, 09:59
We give up.......what are they and where did they come ? I think you might have to tell us. Thanks.

It's not a quiz, I don't know, I want the answers too!

antarmike
22-11-2008, 10:01
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/22-11-2008095509.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/22-11-2008095615.jpg
Early Dyson FV3601 50 Ton Tank Transporter rigged with Stanchions and chains to carry general cargo, (usually ammunition). This feature was deleted on later models..

Tony B
22-11-2008, 17:54
Didn't airfeild caravans have a Commer Karrier or something in bettween? At college the pig man Pete Mountain was ex RAF and had driven them regularly, what he could do with a trailer made the rest of us jealous.

AndyFowler
25-11-2008, 00:23
A trailer that I would like to have identified please chaps !

antar
25-11-2008, 00:26
7 1/2 ton light recovery trailer made by Cranes of Dereham.

AndyFowler
25-11-2008, 00:28
Thanks Antar ! Your keyboard must be on fire ! :-D

antar
25-11-2008, 00:33
That was after reaching to the book "we made trailers" by Cranes of Derham and checking before I replied !!!

AndyFowler
25-11-2008, 00:38
Am I right in thinking that they recently closed for business stating one reason as the price of steel ! (Think I read this in a Commercial vehicle mag but memory not what it was !) :-D

REME 245
25-11-2008, 08:09
I would immagine due to the number used that a number of manufacturers probably made them.

They were used a lot for transporting/recovering Bren Carriers.

Runflat
25-11-2008, 08:51
The Ministry of Supply's "Data book of Wheeled Vehicles" only lists Cranes as the manufacturer.

There are surprisingly few of these on the rally scene considering that they are the standard WW2 trailer used by Light Aid Detachments. Would look great behind behind an Austin K6 gantry!

antarmike
25-11-2008, 19:06
A trailer that I would like to have identified please chaps !

Is the Scammell fuel tank on the trailer any good and is it for sale, if so I am your man.....

AndyFowler
25-11-2008, 19:32
Is the Scammell fuel tank on the trailer any good and is it for sale, if so I am your man..... I'm afraid I no longer have details of the owner as the trailer was sold shortly after this picture was taken Mike ! Sorry !:(

antarmike
25-11-2008, 22:03
Okay cheers mate...

Runflat
25-11-2008, 22:23
One of these 7 1/2 ton trailers appeared for sale in October's CMV. Looks different to the one shown above. I hope someone bought it.

antarmike
26-11-2008, 13:30
And in the Scammell Recovery Video (Army Kinematography Unit) they can be used to carry the front axle of a 6 wheeled truck in the same way as a towing ambulance is used...

ackack
28-11-2008, 18:53
We have a couple of Cranes 7.5 ton recovery trailers in the yard, they will need a lot of work though and where you can you get 10.50 x 13 tyres?

les freathy
30-11-2008, 17:36
A few more Queen Marys in there working environment

antarmike
06-12-2008, 20:56
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/planttrailer1.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/planttrailer2.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/23-01-2007190905.jpg

les freathy
12-12-2008, 12:39
Queen mary coupled to a late model Crossley Q tractor and something a little different a WW2 German 3 axle trailer used for transporting those weird human torpedoes. Not much documentation can be found on these and even less on the trailer so comments will be interesting
cheers
Les

mcspool
16-12-2008, 21:26
Here's the same Commer type 'Q' tractor shown coupled to a Tasker Short High Loading trailer.

And hereīs one in action in North Africa. From the photo page of No. 75 O.T.U. R.A.F. North Africa (http://www.pobrien.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/campaigns.html).

Hanno

antarmike
18-12-2008, 08:54
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/18-12-2008085003.jpg
Jeremy Walker's Churchill Crocodile sits on his FV3601 awaitng craning off.

Knowl Hill Steam Rally, many years ago

antarmike
18-12-2008, 09:09
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/18-12-2008090354.jpg

sorry about the picture quality, the old Beverley museum wasn't that well lit. Another FV3601 of course.

antarmike
18-12-2008, 13:48
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/truckbarrow003.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/truckbarrow001.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/truckbarrow002.jpg
My wife bought this ex military thingy from Ramco, not knowing what it was. They called it a truck barrow, but I am lead to believe that it was a vehicle trailer used by airborn forces and could be used behind Champ/jeep/ Land-Rover etc.

More info welcome. Including de-ciphering the code on the wheel??? please.

les freathy
03-01-2009, 10:34
A post war Queen Mary on a RAF Bedford s type tractor at Steamer Point Aden

AndyFowler
05-03-2009, 10:49
Nice trailer on Ebay ! Shame I have no room !:-D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320346457973&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ebayphotohosting

6 X 6
05-03-2009, 12:27
Nice trailer on Ebay ! Shame I have no room !:-D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320346457973&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ebayphotohosting

Andy, you do have room. Just park the trailer where Daisy usually stands and then put Daisy on the trailer. That will take up no more space than just Daisy and you'll then have an upstairs/downstairs restoration project. :)

N.O.S.
05-03-2009, 12:49
Nice trailer on Ebay ! Shame I have no room !:-D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320346457973&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ebayphotohosting

It says used by American army - certainly WW2, but isn't that a British trailer? :confused:

radiomike7
05-03-2009, 13:04
It says used by American army - certainly WW2, but isn't that a British trailer? :confused:

Cranes 7 1/2 ton recovery trailer, as British as they come and usually pulled by Pioneers.

Blackpowder44
05-03-2009, 16:29
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/truckbarrow003.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/truckbarrow001.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/truckbarrow002.jpg
My wife bought this ex military thingy from Ramco, not knowing what it was. They called it a truck barrow, but I am lead to believe that it was a vehicle trailer used by airborn forces and could be used behind Champ/jeep/ Land-Rover etc.

More info welcome. Including de-ciphering the code on the wheel??? please. Very nice piece of WWII airborne equipment. Hand cart/ wheelbarrow to be pulled by hand, not a trailor as such.There should be hooks at the four bottom corners where you could attach toggle ropes to assist in hand hauling.I have one and yours is only the second one I have seen in 20 odd years.Mind you I dont get about much.

antarmike
05-03-2009, 20:44
Very nice piece of WWII airborne equipment. Hand cart/ wheelbarrow to be pulled by hand, not a trailor as such.There should be hooks at the four bottom corners where you could attach toggle ropes to assist in hand hauling.I have one and yours is only the second one I have seen in 20 odd years.Mind you I dont get about much.

I was led to believe that the kink in the handle, allows it to be hooked onto a towhook of a vehicle.

Granted there would be virtually no lock, before the corners of the trailer hits the corners of the Jepp/ whatever.

If this is not so, what do you think is the reason for this kink? It seems to make manufacture more difficult, and it doesn't make it any easier to manhandle, does it?

AndyFowler
05-03-2009, 20:48
Andy, you do have room. Just park the trailer where Daisy usually stands and then put Daisy on the trailer. That will take up no more space than just Daisy and you'll then have an upstairs/downstairs restoration project. :)
Having enough trouble getting my Scammell bungalow finished thanks Tom ! :-D

6 X 6
05-03-2009, 21:10
It seems to make manufacture more difficult, and it doesn't make it any easier to manhandle, does it?

I've done, and still do, quite a bit of tube bending and providing this kink, as a handle, would be very simple and only add a few minutes to the production time. One would probably make this bend first, then bend the two corners.

I think the designer added this additional bend to stop one's hand from sliding along the tubular rail at the either end of the cart and to enable the cart to be steered more easily. I can't envisage this cart being towed by a vehicle's tow hitch for the same reason as you.

Blackpowder44
05-03-2009, 21:42
I was led to believe that the kink in the handle, allows it to be hooked onto a towhook of a vehicle.

Granted there would be virtually no lock, before the corners of the trailer hits the corners of the Jepp/ whatever.

If this is not so, what do you think is the reason for this kink? It seems to make manufacture more difficult, and it doesn't make it any easier to manhandle, does it?
The kink in the handle at both ends is to allow a toggle rope to be attached to either pull or restrain the basket when going down hill, so I was informed by ex airborne vet. He didnt think they were ever used in theater but were seen into the 1960s on the airborne base carrying a variety of kit from place to place.Nevertheless a rare and interesting airborne piece of WWII kit.

6 X 6
05-03-2009, 22:28
The kink in the handle at both ends is to allow a toggle rope to be attached to either pull or restrain the basket when going down hill.

That makes sense.

simon stolly
05-03-2009, 23:56
Grumpy's Militant with MkII stolly on 10 ton Recovery trailer and loading a 1 ton signals box on a Rubery Owen 2 ton draw-bar trailer ( both a black art to reverse!)

antarmike
06-03-2009, 13:27
Grumpy's Militant with MkII stolly on 10 ton Recovery trailer and loading a 1 ton signals box on a Rubery Owen 2 ton draw-bar trailer ( both a black art to reverse!)


More so the 2 tonner!!!

Grumpy
06-03-2009, 13:58
The Podvalnik P50 used on with the Tatra 813 is very similar to the Rogers 45 Ton, there are two heavy duty chains that go from the trailer end of the A frame to two large hooks either side of the Tatra chassis. These chains can be shortened to prevent the turntable rotating too far while reversing. Very tempted to modify my recovery trailer the same way.

antar
06-03-2009, 18:06
This is I believe a 'Bridge Launching Trailer' made by Cranes of Dereham. Has anybody got anymore info/pictures on them?

Yes I have the operator handbook for one. That one would be in Rush Green Motors I think ?

simon stolly
15-03-2009, 07:42
More so the 2 tonner!!!

The two tonner is is a dream to tow, and a nightmare to reverse!! Even when placed on the front pintel of a Land Rover, maneuvering is is difficult and time consuming ( that is on flat, firm, even ground)
On a side camber, or rutted land, you better off buying a gun and topping yourself!

snowtracdave
15-03-2009, 09:22
The two tonner is is a dream to tow, and a nightmare to reverse!! Even when placed on the front pintel of a Land Rover, maneuvering is is difficult and time consuming ( that is on flat, firm, even ground)
On a side camber, or rutted land, you better off buying a gun and topping yourself!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

You make me feel so much better !
People have often remarked on my abilities in manoeuvreing trailers into places they wouldnt attempt...........
The reply to which is " you've never seen me with a four wheeled one then !"

6 X 6
14-04-2009, 21:38
Three 'Queen Marys', two with their Commer 'Q' type tractors. Pity that lorry mounted crane got in the way.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/lorrysax/sc008235c6.jpg

antarmike
18-04-2009, 14:49
A wellington, having finished front line bomber duties is taken to an MU for rebuilding. This one will see further life with an OTU.
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/wellingtonQueenMary.jpg
One of the best Q.M. shots I have seen.

abn deuce
18-04-2009, 16:54
Great find !

The Auck
19-04-2009, 22:14
I would immagine due to the number used that a number of manufacturers probably made them.

They were used a lot for transporting/recovering Bren Carriers.

Here's a picture of same.

Nigel

ted angus
20-04-2009, 07:19
Not a lot of effort on that handle Nigel and reposition the guide onto the Rcy to give the carrier driver a better view !
listening out.

Niels v
20-04-2009, 08:00
This german sub was found in the 70s in one of the danish royal arms museum storage hangers, it was later traded to a german museum and the trailer disappeared, :cry:

Simon Daymond
20-04-2009, 21:25
is that girl doing what I think she's doing?

egdod
21-04-2009, 09:20
I Think she is doing what firefighters call "the ba shuffle"!!!!!

big chris
03-05-2009, 14:31
perhaps shes a hiker on the pull or shes got a flat

stephanedu14
04-05-2009, 08:22
A trailer that I would like to have identified please chaps !

Sauved or not this trailer?
What a tractor for trailer?

ianscales
13-05-2009, 10:29
A couple of pictures of the QM at Elvington Air Museum

http://www.rafmtd.co.uk/HMVF/yamqm1.jpg

http://www.rafmtd.co.uk/HMVF/yamqm2.jpg

ianscales
13-05-2009, 11:33
Ted, you're right (Post #35) KING now make the modern day QM

http://www.rafmtd.co.uk/HMVF/mtveh163.jpg

http://www.rafmtd.co.uk/HMVF/mtveh165.jpg

antarmike
25-05-2009, 18:25
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/carrington2009008.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/carrington2009007.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/carrington2009004.jpg

Carrington Steam Rally water bowser is I presume a WW2 Searchlight trailer chassis???

Tony B
25-05-2009, 18:37
Keith Brigstock's searchlight trailer.

stephanedu14
26-05-2009, 17:51
splendid DCA.en lamp regulates general which was the tractor used, was it also carrying a generator

HWade
07-06-2009, 19:47
Iam doing a trailer very similar to that one but looking at the one on the forum the front axle looks fixed, and is not a knock out. My trailer has a large pin through the front and if you jack up trailer taking the weight you can pull out the pin and the front axle will pull out on it wheels.


Howard

antarmike
16-07-2009, 12:56
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/truckbarrow003.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/truckbarrow001.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/truckbarrow002.jpg
My wife bought this ex military thingy from Ramco, not knowing what it was. They called it a truck barrow, but I am lead to believe that it was a vehicle trailer used by airborn forces and could be used behind Champ/jeep/ Land-Rover etc.

More info welcome. Including de-ciphering the code on the wheel??? please.
Anyone else want one???
http://milweb.net/classifieds/large_image.php?ad=47556&cat=7

safariswing
16-07-2009, 13:03
Anyone else want one???
http://milweb.net/classifieds/large_image.php?ad=47556&cat=7





an extremely rare item,and I know of only one other


I know of at least 6, maybe he doesn't get about much:coffee:

younggun
14-10-2009, 21:57
Grumpy's Militant with MkII stolly on 10 ton Recovery trailer and loading a 1 ton signals box on a Rubery Owen 2 ton draw-bar trailer ( both a black art to reverse!)

i was thinking wot a 1 ton signals box looks like on a rubery owen 2ton trailer thanksf or the pics simon :-\ humm time to start writing the christmass list :-D

nick

antarmike
15-10-2009, 06:27
I had a BT fibre glass box on a Rubery Owen Two tonner and I found it very top heavy. In the end I welded stops under the front cross axle pivot to stop it rolling over too far.

Completely unorigional, but I never intended to use the trailer off-road in the way it was originally envisaged.

These stops still had about 1/2" clear to allow a little movement but took out the wild excesses of body roll.

Tony B
15-10-2009, 14:06
The Pig man at College Pete Mountain was ex RAF, he'd driven the Karriers with trailer fore and aft. Watching him reverse trailers was poetry in motion, and made us snotty students sick.

N.O.S.
15-10-2009, 21:39
Tony B - got an artic licence? :shocked:

http://www.roadtransport.com/blogs/big-lorry-blog/loRM2010_014.jpg

gritineye
15-10-2009, 21:53
Tony B - got an artic licence? :shocked:

http://www.roadtransport.com/blogs/big-lorry-blog/loRM2010_014.jpg

:rofl::rofl:Love the rear wheel arches, they should get a few cyclists on left handers....:shake:

Tony B
16-10-2009, 17:19
:rofl::rofl:Love the rear wheel arches, they should get a few cyclists on left handers....:shake:

Oh a dream come true!!!:trustme: Funny enough if the thing is fitted with more than 16 seats, yes, I could drive it. TheBendy bus, otherwise known as the Swan Vesta, are strictly a tractor unit and trailer. :banana::banana:

alan turner
22-10-2009, 17:06
there are hundreds od different trailers in the Rawhs collection here are some for comment

Adrian Barrell
22-10-2009, 17:23
The second to last is a plant trailer with a Mk1 Centurion turret on it being unloaded by a Cent ARV. Wonder where that turret went?

antarmike
22-10-2009, 17:40
Third Picture is Trailer, 50 Ton, 16-wheeled, Transporter, No1 Mark 1 with posts and stanctions fitted (F.V. 10616.)???
(otherwise known as FV3601 Mk 1)

antarmike
22-10-2009, 17:45
Last is 10/30 Tonne Dummy Axle, Recovery. (FV3561)

Adrian Barrell
22-10-2009, 18:43
First is a 40 ton full trailer, Rogers shown in post-war British service.

radiomike7
23-10-2009, 10:53
The Wynns trailer is a Cranes 200 tonner but fitted with girders made by Fairfields of Chepstow normally used for loco and railway work.

radiomike7
23-10-2009, 11:23
The second one looks like a RE 35 ton 8tw with a 10 ton tilt bed recovery in the background.

alan turner
23-10-2009, 16:53
Radiomike is correct with the Wynns description this image has gone to John Wynn via Pat Ware after their joint series in Classic Commercials, it is taken about 1953 in Woolwich Arsenal and is loading a a railway gun chassis presumably for scrapping. john wynn confirms the drag is the biggest they had and had been used to take the steam engine to the festival of Britain in 1951.

The rest I had no idea what they are so thanks all for your input.

radiomike7
23-10-2009, 21:53
Radiomike is correct with the Wynns description this image has gone to John Wynn via Pat Ware after their joint series in Classic Commercials, it is taken about 1953 in Woolwich Arsenal and is loading a a railway gun chassis presumably for scrapping. john wynn confirms the drag is the biggest they had and had been used to take the steam engine to the festival of Britain in 1951.


Not quite, the 110 ton loco was taken to the Festival of Britain site using the same girders but with solid tyred bogies, the gun is being moved with the bogies and swan necks from the 200 ton trailer. Diamond T on the front and a Pacific pushing on it's first time out.:)

mcspool
09-11-2009, 10:20
Here's another picture of a surviving Queen Mary trailer:

http://marksmiltaryvehicles.fotopic.net/p58607366.html

Not sure what those wings are, but they sure must suffer from being outside. The trailer as well, come to think of it.

Hanno

antarmike
09-11-2009, 13:20
Here's another picture of a surviving Queen Mary trailer:

http://marksmiltaryvehicles.fotopic.net/p58607366.html

Not sure what those wings are, but they sure must suffer from being outside. The trailer as well, come to think of it.

Hanno
Most of the external exhibits at Eden Camp are in my opinion bes described as weathered.

Their Explorer is in my opinion a disgrace and most of the rest is rusting away fast. I saw the Queen Mary, and yes that is rusting away too.

alan turner
11-11-2009, 23:39
fancy a few more trailer images ?

chevpol
12-11-2009, 18:24
nice piccys, I like the 4wheel caravan RAF careers

Mark

Tony B
13-11-2009, 04:37
That Radar trailer picture was taken at the back of Fort Halstead.

les freathy
14-11-2009, 21:03
Any ideas, obviously a genny and powered by a V8 but the trailer has a American feel about it then again the background looks to be very British so what make of machine are we looking at here

les freathy
14-11-2009, 21:04
Christ i will get this right one day maybe this time

les freathy
14-11-2009, 21:05
And says i full of self confidence a 50 ton Dyson with Neptune load

woa2
14-11-2009, 21:15
Christ i will get this right one day maybe this time
This is an Arc welding trailer, with a Ford V8 engine. I was offered one about 20 years ago, but didn't get it.

les freathy
14-11-2009, 21:38
Now thats interesting Robert as to look at it it shows none of the usual characteristics of a mobile welder
cheers
Les

woa2
14-11-2009, 23:03
Now thats interesting Robert as to look at it it shows none of the usual characteristics of a mobile welder
cheers
Les

Just found the Instruction book. It's an 18kw Mobile Alternator model 30CP, manufactured by H.E.Nunn in Manchester. The book is not dated, so I have no indication of a manufactured date. Also, there are no Military references in the book, so I presume the alternator is Civilian, but it is suited for a WD towing hitch.

alan turner
15-11-2009, 00:16
Les your scale drawings were of this, not only used for the 18 pdr

May1940
20-11-2009, 03:36
Alan

Your pictures of the limber and gun are excellent - is there any way I can obtain full size copies?

In fact I understand this is the No. 26 Mk 1 limber specifically for the 4.5 inch howitzer. There are occasional shots of it with the BEF, including on Pathe news clips. I attach a low res scan, I think from a kit instruction leaflet, to show the different shape.

Les's plan is of a No. 26 Limber which seems to have been the pre-war limber for the 18/25 pounders. (I have yet to see a single picture of such a limber with the BEF.)

May1940
20-11-2009, 03:44
Alan

Not a very good first post there - I meant to say that Les's plan was of a No.24 limber of pre-war vintage. See picture here.

And I forgot to sign -off!

Regards

Andrew Foulkes

phil munga
23-11-2009, 23:30
this pic shows a Taskers max load 6ton "or maybe that should be all up weight" Date of build 1976 type u8.5 Repainted 1986 , loaded up with scafolding and going by whats growing on it its sat here a while , not as long as the one in the next pics though

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/gibletgibphil/silverbusplusyouthsdadsbuspics200.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/gibletgibphil/silverbusplusyouthsdadsbuspics199.jpg

not to sure of this one , got a few pics of it ,wooden chassis no suspesion but has brakes red primer green top coat looking at the hitch it looks as though the brake is just a handbrake

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/gibletgibphil/silverbusplusyouthsdadsbuspics201.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/gibletgibphil/silverbusplusyouthsdadsbuspics203.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/gibletgibphil/silverbusplusyouthsdadsbuspics202.jpg

les freathy
25-11-2009, 18:20
50 ton Dyson, looks to be loaded with large cabinets

Ed Batchelor
03-12-2009, 17:55
Few shots of an obviously ex military trailer picked up today for a mate. Looks fairly old on 10.5 x 13 wheels original "DUNLOP" on sidewalls.
Not sure if tanker is original to chassis or not.
Anyone recognise make? Any info would be good.

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/22b/22b632c7d94bf7a8f315f9e6dd121917.jpg

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/a30/a304bb642992e77d752dc92a49324e7d.jpg


http://www.fotothing.com/photos/9f5/9f5981f2dd67e15c703dcb20223c2488.jpg

les freathy
04-12-2009, 22:04
Ed i think you have the remains of one of these 180 gall water tank trailers, the tank seems to be original but i have reservations about the front draw bar section as it differs in shape to the photos of the original. One or two firms were employed during WW2 to build these including E.C.D so it is possible that draw bar is original but i have seen no photographic evedence to back it up, as you can see a lot of bits to be located for a rebuild

Ed Batchelor
05-12-2009, 10:13
Thanks for interesting photos, its been saved from the scrap man which is the main thing.

mcspool
05-12-2009, 19:40
Thanks for interesting photos, its been saved from the scrap man which is the main thing.

Ed,

Good call saving it from the scrap man!

Here are some pictures of what seems an identical one - including the drawbar - which was for sale in the Netherlands a few years ago. It is a British built trailer.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1725/thumbs/foto_208_1424.jpg (http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/showphoto.php?photo=44206) http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1725/thumbs/foto_208_1425.jpg (http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/showphoto.php?photo=44207) http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1725/thumbs/foto_208_1423.jpg (http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/showphoto.php?photo=44205)
Click on the thumbnails to see larger pictures.

HTH,
Hanno

AndyFowler
10-12-2009, 10:42
Nice project on Ebay ! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bren-gun-carrier-universal-carrier-recovery-trailer_W0QQitemZ330384860695QQcategoryZ122307QQcm dZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4012.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW% 26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D15%26po%3DLCA%26ps%3D4

sanguin
10-12-2009, 16:59
Gentlemen,
One of the many things that has intrigued me concerning the Queen Mary trailers is the coupling. It is unique to them, I believe, and was designed and built by Taskers. It is different to the Scammell and not a modern 'fifth wheel' so presumably both the tractors and the trailers could not be used with any 'non Tasker' equipment.
Does anybody have any drawings or pictures of the Tasker coupling?
Most of the Queen Mary images show the trailer coupling as a sort of 'inverted pie dish' but I have also seen one with a definite steel pin projecting vertically downward from the centre of this 'dish'. I have never seen an image of the tractor coupling installation.
Can anybody help? And did the post war Queen Mary trailers persist with this coupling or did they change to a less exclusive system?
John

antarmike
20-12-2009, 16:04
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/202570428-L.jpg
BV towing a trailer, Falkland Ilses, was this normal and if it just arriving on a beach where has it come from?

ted angus
20-12-2009, 16:33
Gentlemen,
One of the many things that has intrigued me concerning the Queen Mary trailers is the coupling. It is unique to them, I believe, and was designed and built by Taskers. It is different to the Scammell and not a modern 'fifth wheel' so presumably both the tractors and the trailers could not be used with any 'non Tasker' equipment.
Does anybody have any drawings or pictures of the Tasker coupling?
Most of the Queen Mary images show the trailer coupling as a sort of 'inverted pie dish' but I have also seen one with a definite steel pin projecting vertically downward from the centre of this 'dish'. I have never seen an image of the tractor coupling installation.
Can anybody help? And did the post war Queen Mary trailers persist with this coupling or did they change to a less exclusive system?
John

During WW2; the lack of standardisation was a bit of a problem, the RAF had a lot of various trailers by Taskers, they were in the majority.
trailers with Scammel couplings in the RAF were a minority.
TED

sanguin
03-01-2010, 15:45
My thanks, Ted.
Apologies in the delay responding but I have just returned from an extremely cold and icy Donegal; a festive trip to see grandchildren. It was so slippery and cold that we didn't even make it out to sample the Guinness more than once in a week. Inishowen (the top bit of Donegal near Malin Head) virtually never gets this weather so they are not really prepared for it. Nor was I....
John

ianscales
13-01-2010, 12:52
Does anybody have any drawings or pictures of the Tasker coupling?Here you go.............

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schliesser92
13-01-2010, 13:06
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q208/antarmike/202570428-L.jpg
BV towing a trailer, Falkland Ilses, was this normal and if it just arriving on a beach where has it come from?


BVs towing is normal. I've seen pics of them towing field guns (sometimes on skis!). There is a two-axle trailer used by several (mainly Scandinavian) armies which is also amphibious, mainly towed behind the BV206 series. As for the Falklands shot, I suspect that it was just crossing a water obstruction.

younggun
28-01-2010, 21:28
Grumpy's Militant with MkII stolly on 10 ton Recovery trailer and loading a 1 ton signals box on a Rubery Owen 2 ton draw-bar trailer ( both a black art to reverse!)


only now do i fully understand this post .:red:

rubery owen black art indeed but stilll i am plased with my new toys will put some pics up soon need to keep it on the down low for now other family mebers are yet to see its potential

mite where i find some rear lights to fit this trailer as they are broken on mine they are the small screw on jam jar style lights ?

Richard Farrant
28-01-2010, 21:38
mite where i find some rear lights to fit this trailer as they are broken on mine they are the small screw on jam jar style lights ?

If you go to Stoneleigh this Sunday, you are sure to pick up some of those light lens, they were fitted on everything in the army at one time, or check out some of the dealers who specialise in military Land Rovers

younggun
28-01-2010, 21:52
thnaks richard

radiomike7
28-01-2010, 23:14
only now do i fully understand this post .:red:

rubery owen black art indeed but stilll i am plased with my new toys will put some pics up soon need to keep it on the down low for now other family mebers are yet to see its potential

mite where i find some rear lights to fit this trailer as they are broken on mine they are the small screw on jam jar style lights ?

Nick, have you got space for the later versions, same threaded fitting but with a much larger lens which gives a better light? I have amber and red ones available if you are passing, but don't bring a steam loco down our lane!:-)

younggun
28-01-2010, 23:23
Nick, have you got space for the later versions, same threaded fitting but with a much larger lens which gives a better light? I have amber and red ones available if you are passing, but don't bring a steam loco down our lane!:-)

i will have a look mike i mite go to stonliege on suday to have a look round i am goin to start striping the trailer for blasting and painting on sataday so i will take some pics show u how much space i have ,

the lights on one side or ok but the other side they are damages bigger lights souds like a gd idea tho . i have allready got some LED side lights to replace the reflectors down the side . and some white and red LED s to add to the front and rear of the trailer . i am goin with the be safe be seen thing .

thanks mike

nick

wont bring a train down worry :-D could bring the big girder frame tho

simon stolly
30-01-2010, 12:11
Hey Nick, See you at Stoneleigh if you are going, I am getting there early (9am) as it was very busy the last time I went.
Graham Holden will be trading at Stoneleigh, he should have some lens, bug eye ones are far better for light, wipe screw thread with Vasoline before fitting (when you come to take them off, you will be glad you did!) Helps keep the water out too.

Radek
08-02-2010, 20:40
looks like british army 10cwt trailer
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Useful-Sturdy-Yard-Farm-Trailer_W0QQitemZ310199347961QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK _BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL?hash=item4839526af9